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Title: Crown dip
Post by: Michbow on May 21, 2020, 12:16:54 PM
Hello all,
Have a question maybe some of you with more wisdom or experience can answer.
I plan on making my first set of wood arrows and was curious if the crown dip paint must be paint used for arrows (Bohning or True North) or could I use an acrylic from the hardware store?
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: bucknut on May 21, 2020, 02:06:18 PM
I use rustoleum enamel in the spray can. Never had any issues. Mike vines has a how to on YouTube that is very good. 
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Post by: Pat B on May 21, 2020, 02:09:16 PM
I've used acrylic paint in a dip tube and Krylon spray on wood arrows with good results.
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Post by: The Whittler on May 21, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Get water base paint and mix half with water and you can apply it like a stain. If you are just using straight paint and whatever color you want use a white base it will make the color over it brighter.
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Post by: rustyspike on May 21, 2020, 03:38:22 PM
I used to  Dip them until my Dip tanks got thrown in the trash. Now use a acrylic spray paint. If its not as shinny as you want use a clear over it. Use a painters tape to cover the areas you don't want to spray. Works pretty good.

Rich K
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Post by: hitman on May 21, 2020, 07:17:26 PM
I agree about using white as a base before spraying another color over them.
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Post by: Zwickey-Fever on May 22, 2020, 07:59:01 AM
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I tape off where I want my crown to begin, then stain, let dry for 24 hours. Then take tape off and tape the stained section of my arrows. Then I use Rustolem acrylic spray paint for my crown, then let dry for no less then 24 hours. Then I dip them, crest first, into a water based urethane in dipping tubes. Let dry for 24 hours then lightly hit with 000 steal wool. Then I paint on the crest using a Spin Rite Creator machine. let dry for 24 hours. Then dip broadhead side of the arrow first into the dipping tubes of urethane, let dry for 24 hours and hit with the 000 steal wool. Then dip for a third time in urethane broadhead side first again. I hang and let dry for 24 hours. I then hit again with the 000 steal wool, then finish with 0000 steal wool. This way my entire arrow is sealed.
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: rustyspike on May 22, 2020, 08:06:53 AM
Yea good points Zwickey. Cure time and sanding is really important. Take your time and follow the manufactures instructions.

Ho yea and do not forget to clean them well in between steps.

Rich K
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: Michbow on May 22, 2020, 01:36:52 PM
Thank you for all the help folks. I feel better now about getting after it!
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: Walt Francis on May 23, 2020, 10:33:55 PM
John,
Looks like a really simple sequence, without the odor of some finishes.  How well does the water based urethane handle target burn?
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Post by: bucknut on May 23, 2020, 10:48:08 PM
That is the only thing with poly.  Target burn is bad. 
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Post by: Walt Francis on May 24, 2020, 11:51:35 AM
Target burn is why I changed from water based finishes to Pro Fin.  I'd rather deal with the smell then the target burn.
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: stack on May 25, 2020, 01:35:11 PM
What paint can you use under the pro fin for cresting? Can you use Testors paint?
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: Zwickey-Fever on May 25, 2020, 08:52:35 PM
Quote from: Walt Francis on May 23, 2020, 10:33:55 PM
John,
Looks like a really simple sequence, without the odor of some finishes.  How well does the water based urethane handle target burn?
I do get target burn but not as much using Varathane water base urethane. And that I do get I just touch up with some 000 steal wool after yanking them from my target. Haha. But if I had a well vented area I would be using the smelly stuff. But i have found the Varathane water base urethane is quite durable. I seen a video from Mike Vines here on TG and I basically use his steps and methods.
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: Michbow on May 27, 2020, 12:08:27 PM
Could you tell me where I could find that Mike Vines vid?
Title: Re: Crown dip
Post by: rustyspike on May 27, 2020, 01:52:18 PM
Wow lot of info here. Try and keep it simple. I was pretty confused on what materials to use.

Any way to make a long story short. I ended up calling Raptor Archery. https://raptorarchery.com/  (sponsor here) he helped me with what I needed. Simple. Was like 15 years ago. I have one arrow left from the first dozen.

For some reason I cant post  attachments with photos from my new phone. will figure it out later.

Here is a link to my Flickr account. https://www.flickr.com/photos/155860989@N03/49942115298/in/datetaken-public/


Good Luck,
Rich K.