I came to TG because I fell in love with trad archery, and I stayed because, with very rare exceptions, people are respectful and want to show support over a mutual passion. I get on here on good days and bad so I can escape from the pressures of life (work, money, family stress, etc).
Here lately, there's been a lot of talk of COVID-19. I get that it's affecting all of us. I get that we have differing opinions on it, but can we get back to trad archery? Terry tried to get one thread back to something trad-related, but that didn't last long. Now there's more threads turning into p*ssing matches. There are plenty of places online where you can go debate origin theories, media hype, evidence, etc. I stay away from those kinds of places. This is supposed to be a sacred space where we can get away from the pressures of life and come together.
Just my two cents. Admins, please delete the thread if I'm off target here.
-King
I'm all for it, the one thing I won't abide though is provably false information being spread. What we need right now is openness and transparency. We need to look out for one another, and to do our part to help slow the spread. We also need to be our brothers keeper. By that I mean, there are plenty of folks that are scared, or feeling isolated and lonely. This site is a great way to alleviate some of that, tell stories, share advice etc.
It would be pretty tough to ban any discussion on the topic considering the circumstances but perhaps we can contain it to a single thread?
Lets get it going again.
And stop all this :deadhorse: :banghead:
Bear, not saying ban the topic completely, just encouraging us to stop the back and forth that doesn't get us anywhere. Check your PMs.
I did sir, I agree with what you're saying and I hope you can also see where I'm coming from as well. I believe we both have good intentions and I salute you for speaking your mind. I'd much rather spend my time perusing the highlights forums trying to gain as much knowledge as I can on my new obsession than engaging in what's been going on in that other thread.
All the best
All;
You'll not be able to stop the mis-information or those who chose to espouse it. Try to put the truth out once and then let it be.
:coffee: :archer2: :campfire: :thumbsup: :wavey:
I'd love to see a thread of ideas of things we can do to help our neighbors, families, our communities get through this and beyond. E.g., planting a spring garden, where to find edible mushrooms and what they look like, places to shoot bows that don't require close contact, things to do to deal with cabin fever and get your archery gear in shape. One of my neighbors is getting out every day fishing from the bank on the river in front of my place , more to get some fresh air and sunshine than to catch something to eat.
So far me and the kids have gone snow mobiling, set snares for rabbits, built a snowman, and tomorrow were doing an all day ice fishing trip. Can't get cabin fever if you don't stay in the cabin :thumbsup:
Quote from: BearBandit on March 20, 2020, 01:59:57 PM
Can't get cabin fever if you don't stay in the cabin :thumbsup:
Well said Bear. I'm heading out here directly to do some shed hunting.
I've been out quite a bit myself,but I've got to get back to work.
I'm glad people are getting back to the bow hunting part of the forum too. My wife is driving me crazy with this stuff,and we are just staying home.
Guys....its tuff riding herd....doing the best we can. If you don't like a topic, don't click on it.
Best consider other deep concerns I have about the site, the trad community, and the whole Trad bowhunting community in this phycodrama madness .You can't slay a Dragon made of smoke.
No disrespect to anyone...just step back and think for a minute.
Quote from: Terry Green on March 22, 2020, 07:20:33 AM
Guys....its tuff riding herd....doing the best we can. If you don't like a topic, don't click on it.
Best consider other deep concerns I have about the site, the trad community, and the whole Trad bowhunting community in this phycodrama madness .You can't slay a Dragon made of smoke.
No disrespect to anyone...just step back and think for a minute.
Hit the nail on the head!" Nothing to fear but, fear itself"
Quote from: ksbowman on March 22, 2020, 10:51:37 AM
Quote from: Terry Green on March 22, 2020, 07:20:33 AM
Guys....its tuff riding herd....doing the best we can. If you don't like a topic, don't click on it.
Best consider other deep concerns I have about the site, the trad community, and the whole Trad bowhunting community in this phycodrama madness .You can't slay a Dragon made of smoke.
No disrespect to anyone...just step back and think for a minute.
Hit the nail on the head!" Nothing to fear but, fear itself"
Yes....we haven't allowed "news" on TG since we started.....
But in this case we have allowed a bit due to this effecting the whole world......
Again, no disrespect to anyone...
We need NOT to worry over a couple of threads, but instead if you are even going to have a Tradgang .
:scared: :scared: :scared:
Quote from: Alexander Traditional on March 22, 2020, 02:16:29 PM
:scared: :scared: :scared:
Yes Rick.....I'm not causing the panic....but those who are are "in charge". I have no clue of the ramifications of such actions our gov is about to throw down.
Things are on my mind as always....but in a very different direction now.
I just want us to enjoy what we have while we have it....and hopefully that will be for many decades. :campfire:
I am not sure I would call all the reaction to this disease as panic. The threat is very, very real. I fear it, because I am 70 years old and have diabetes and arthritis, which puts me in a very susceptible group. Consequently, I gave up my part-time job. However, once we do the precautionary things, especially if we are hunkered down, now is the time to get back to the archery side of life. I have been shooting in the yard quite a lot. I have been concentrating on form trying to quit plucking the string. Also, I'm doing more practice from longer distances. 30 yard accuracy is my goal. Roving can be done without violating the social distance standards suggested. Maybe I can finish that set of arrows I started on many weeks ago. With turkey season upon us, we can actually hunt. However, with my turkey hunting skills, it is very unlikely that I will get close enough to TOM to threaten him with exposure. So, yes, this thing is bad, but we are a very resourceful folks, so we can be very safe and still keep up our archery activities. How about you good story tellers get on-line and give us some good campfire tales? There is a lot we can do, both in terms of health safety and getting back into the bow. As my 5 year old granddaughter told me yesterday, "Let's do some bow and arrow".
I'm in the same boat, Sam. Agree that stumping or shooting alone is a great way to pass the time, and unless I'm missing something, should be as safe as hunkering down indoors. What isn't as safe as hunkering down indoors, for me at least, was shooting with my old friends. We agreed in advance, I thought, to maintain the 6' distance between ourselves and not to touch each other's arrows, but by the end of the shoot we had all been within 6' of each other multiple times and had touched each other's arrows. So regretfully, until we get through this thing, I guess I'll be shooting alone.
Anything we can do either archery or non-archery related to keep us from dwelling on this can be very beneficial. I've been carving a pair of working decoys after a 29 year layoff and it's been like learning to walk again. I also did some gravel work in the back yard and will soon do the mulching. Of course, I shoot in the back yard as much as possible. It's amazing how calm and focused I've become shooting. A new depth finder/plotter needs to be installed in the boat and soon bass fishing will begin. I call or text my archery friends and keep in touch. Lots of things to keep me occupied.
The times indeed are changing. Focus on the positive and pray for the best. I have been fairly productive and will have several dozen carbon arrows listed in classifieds, soon. It is interesting to note that I have been involved in more tele-meetings in the last few weeks than in the previous several years. Even attend Mass and prayer group on-line. Who would have foreseen this?
:coffee: :campfire: :dunno:
Schools are shut down here, so this morning my daughter and I naked cookies, I had her match up the numbers on the recipe with the numbers in the measuring cup (she's in kindergarten) and my boy read for 30 min and we're doing an experiment with yeast and sugar trying to blow up a balloon so I can explain to him what's going on inside the bottle.
Then were all heading out to shoot bow after lunch. We checked our snares yesterday and the kids each got a rabbit. So that's brineing in the fridge for braised rabbit and root veggies tonight.
My kids are outside working on their snow fort.
My arrow cutter came in the mail so I'll be building an arrow saw tonight and my boy is drawing up ideas for us to turn our old lawn tractor into a dune buggy. (I'm a welder fabricator by trade)
Stay busy, stay safe folks.
All the best
yes, we need to move on and stop with the covid-19 panic SCARE, cause that's what a serious viral infection has turned into, no more or less, thanx to the media and certain politicians, with none giving the full details about USA flu epidemics.
Thank you Rob!!!!!
Well, now that we have this thread, lets make some common sense out of the panic that the media portrays about covid-19.
If yer essentially a healthy human, and the virus attacks you, yer gonna survive but you WILL be Miserably sick for about 10-14 days. Been there, done that, it ain't fun but recovery is full.
If yer not a healthy person to begin with where yer ailment compromises yer immune system to any degree, and the virus attacks, yer gonna probably be in a survival fight. Common sense sez that if you are this kinda unhealthy person to begin with, smart thinking would be to FULLY quarantine yerself.
According to the CDC ...
"The 1918 influenza pandemic was the most severe pandemic in recent history. It was caused by an H1N1 virus with genes of avian origin. Although there is not universal consensus regarding where the virus originated, it spread worldwide during 1918-1919. In the United States, it was first identified in military personnel in spring 1918. It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world 2019s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States."
The 2009 edition of the USA swine flu ...
"From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1)pdm09 virus."
Think about all this a bit and put covid-19 in perspective with the swine flu, and then with the common yearly winter flu here in the USA.
"CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018-2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza. The number of influenza-associated illnesses that occurred last season was similar to the estimated number of influenza-associated illnesses during the 2012-2013 influenza season when an estimated 34 million people had symptomatic influenza illness."
CDC REPORTS as of March 23, 2020 ... COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance
Total cases: 33,404
Total deaths: 400
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
Interesting stuff to ponder, eh?
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COVID-19 SYMPTOMS
The main list of acute symptoms at this time is actually quite short and can appear anywhere from two to 14 days after exposure to the virus, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"We're emphasizing fever plus a notable lower respiratory tract symptom -- cough or trouble breathing," said infectious disease expert Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventative medicine and infectious disease at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville.
Being able to identify those symptoms and act upon them when necessary is critical. Here's what you need to know.
Fever
Fever is a key symptom, experts say. Don't fixate on a number, but know it's really not a fever until your temperature reaches at least 100 degrees Fahrenheit (37.7 degrees Celsius) for children and adults.
"There are many misconceptions about fever. Average daily temperature is 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit (37 degrees Celsius), but we all actually go up and down quite a bit during the day as much as half of a degree or a degree," said Dr. John Williams, chief of the division of pediatric infectious diseases at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh.
"So 99.0 degrees or 99.5 degrees Fahrenheit is not a fever," he stressed.
When you check for fever, don't rely on a temperature taken in the morning. Instead take your temp in the late afternoon and early evening.
"Our temperature is not the same during the day. If you take it at eight o'clock in the morning, it may be normal," Schaffner explained.
"One of the most common presentations of fever is that your temperature goes up in the late afternoon and early evening -- it's a common way that viruses produce fever."
(ADDED: Sore throat is also an indicator along with a feverish feeling.)
Cough
Coughing is another key symptom, but it's not just any cough, said Schaffner. It should be a dry cough that you feel in your chest.
"It's not a tickle in your throat. You're not just clearing your throat. It's not just irritated. You're not putting anything out, you're not coughing anything up," Schaffner said.
"The cough is bothersome, it's coming from your breastbone or sternum. and you can tell that your bronchial tubes are inflamed or irritated," he added.
Difficulty breathing
Shortness of breath can be a third -- and very serious -- manifestation of Covid-19, and it can occur on its own, without a cough. If your chest becomes tight or you begin to feel as if you cannot breathe deeply enough to get a good breath, that's a sign to act, experts say.
"If there's any shortness of breath immediately call your health care provider, a local urgent care or the emergency department," said American Medical Association president Dr. Patrice Harris.
(ADDED: Shortness of breath means GET TO A HOSPITAL ASAP!)
"If the shortness of breath is severe enough, you should call 911," Harris added.
(ADDED: This is how covid-19 kills, via the lungs - pneumonia and fibrosis).
In addition to difficulty breathing or shortness of breath, the CDC lists emergency warning signs for Covid-19 as a "persistent pain or pressure in the chest," "bluish lips or face" -- which indicates a lack of oxygen -- and any sudden mental confusion or lethargy and inability to rouse.
Get medical attention immediately, the CDC says.
Flu and cold symptoms
This trifecta of symptoms -- fever, cough and shortness of breath -- are not the only signs of sickness that have been seen in cases of Covid-19.
Many other symptoms can resemble the flu, including headaches, digestive issues, body aches and fatigue, which can be severe. Still other symptoms can resemble a cold or allergies, such as a runny nose, sore throat and sneezing.
Most likely, experts say, you simply have a cold or the flu -- after all they can cause fever and cough too. One possible sign that you might have Covid-19 is if your symptoms, especially shortness of breath, don't improve after a week or so but actually worsen.
So what should you do?
"At this moment, the current guidance -- and this may change -- is that if you have symptoms that are similar to the cold and the flu and these are mild symptoms to moderate symptoms, stay at home and try to manage them with rest, hydration and the use of Tylenol," Harris said.
That advice does not apply if you are over age 60, since immune systems weaken as we age, or if you are pregnant -- anyone with concerns about coronavirus should call their healthcare provider, according to the CDC.
It's unclear whether pregnant women have a greater chance of getting severely ill from coronavirus, but the CDC has said that women experience changes in their bodies during pregnancy that may increase their risk of some infections.
In general, Covid-19 infections are riskier if you have underlying health conditions such as diabetes, chronic lung disease or asthma, heart failure or heart disease, sickle cell anemia, cancer (or are undergoing chemotherapy), kidney disease with dialysis, a body mass index (BMI) over 40 (extremely obese) or an autoimmune disorder.
"Older patients and individuals who have underlying medical conditions or are immunocompromised should contact their physician early in the course of even mild illness," the CDC advises.
To be clear, you are at higher risk -- even if you are young -- if you have underlying health issues.
"People under 60 with underlying illnesses, with diabetes, heart disease, immunocompromised or have any kind of lung disease previously, those people are more vulnerable despite their younger age," Schaffner said.
A history of travel to an area where the novel coronavirus is widespread (and those parts of the world, including the US, are going up each day) is obviously another key factor in deciding if your symptoms may be Covid-19 or not.
Ok I just gotta jump in here real quick. Just so we're clear this isn't the flu. You can carry this virus and show no symptoms for up to 2 weeks. The problem isn't just the virus it's that we have no immunity to it and it will overwhelm our health care systems resulting in people who need care for the same injuries and illnesses that come in every day that don't have this virus not recieving treatment.
You also need to realize that this is just starting, you can't compare the two until it's run its course, this virus is extremely infectious.
Please don't try to downplay the seriousness of this, take a look at what's happening outside your own country.
I'm well aware of the other things that kill people daily. But what many aren't aware of is the majority of the world runs on a just in time health care model.
Which means we have no stockpiles, we have no extra, we have just enough to deal with what we averagely deal with. That's the problem.
If we don't take this seriously it will spread much more rapidly than the flu because we have no immunity and no vaccine for it. Forget the death rate of the virus, its irrelevant, the collapse of our healthcare system and supply lines is what matters.
So either we all do our part or the weakest members of our society pay the price. I know I still want my parents around to see their grand babies so I stay home.
Please please take this seriously the window to head this thing off is quickly shrinking and laissez faire approach will make this so much worse than it has to be. If we all just do our part and stay home and nothing happens, we'll that's kind of the point.
Quote from: BearBandit on March 23, 2020, 09:44:17 PM
Ok I just gotta jump in here real quick. Just so we're clear this isn't the flu. You can carry this virus and show no symptoms for up to 2 weeks. The problem isn't just the virus it's that we have no immunity to it and it will overwhelm our health care systems resulting in people who need care for the same injuries and illnesses that come in every day that don't have this virus not recieving treatment.
You also need to realize that this is just starting, you can't compare the two until it's run its course, this virus is extremely infectious.
Please don't try to downplay the seriousness of this, take a look at what's happening outside your own country.
I'm well aware of the other things that kill people daily. But what many aren't aware of is the majority of the world runs on a just in time health care model.
Which means we have no stockpiles, we have no extra, we have just enough to deal with what we averagely deal with. That's the problem.
If we don't take this seriously it will spread much more rapidly than the flu because we have no immunity and no vaccine for it. Forget the death rate of the virus, its irrelevant, the collapse of our healthcare system and supply lines is what matters.
So either we all do our part or the weakest members of our society pay the price. I know I still want my parents around to see their grand babies so I stay home.
Please please take this seriously the window to head this thing off is quickly shrinking and laissez faire approach will make this so much worse than it has to be. If we all just do our part and stay home and nothing happens, we'll that's kind of the point.
yes, indeed, exactly.
I'm glad that we're on the same page, I just worry that your comparisons to other outbreaks is going to lead people to believe that this isn't as serious as it really is. Panic isn't what we need right now either, logic and science is what will see us through this so please follow the recommendations that have been put in place.
Really when you think about it, not much us being asked other than to stay home and keep your distance from others.
I realize the economic ramifications of this are already huge but they can be much worse if we don't get this under control.
the overview: one would be a fool to dismiss covid-19 as "just another flu", because clearly it's more than just that. however, IMO, it's the media and some politicos that have done Americans a disservice in pushing the covid-19 panic scare that's culminated in fighting over toilet paper for starters, and who knows what comes next *IF* there are shortages of foods and meds. i believe that covid-19 will be with us for quite awhile, hopefully get major subdued as the weather warms, but it could also easily emerge come this fall/winter. be prepared. we have to keep a logical perspective to realize that, for the very most part, that some reasonable 99% or more of all humans will survive, even if they've been afflicted. don't panic. be smart. your intelligence will help you and the not-so-smart people.
the prevention/containment: the obvious care we need to take to avoid viral contamination has been stated mega times. there are personal and social rules to observe. this shouldn't mean the nation comes to a stand still, and it hasn't - so far - thankfully.
the future: we - the American people and our employees, the local, state and fed governments - need to learn from any pandemic and as usual the collective majority has not. hopefully we smart folks all now know what to stock up on before any winter starts. epidemics are wars. perhaps it's also smart if the fed and state governments create a broad plan to enact "militia care centers" around the nation that are fully stocked with proper viral epidemic supplies along with rosters of "militia care personnel" to deploy to these centers for the treatment of the severely afflicted, which could run into the millions. businesses should likewise have epidemic war plans that dovetail with government plans to keep the economy afloat as the battle ensues.
So I went over to Dunhams to buy a a target so I can shoot my bow in the basement for the next 3 weeks or so. I had a time of it picking out the one I wanted but the decision was made. I picked out one that was pretty heavy for a 71 year old to handle but I got it in the basement. Yup, I have an 11 block high basement and I can shoot any longbow or recurve I want and I have a few. I ran a rope from the top of the target to the floor joist above so the target would fall forward when I shot or pulled arrows. I grabbed one of my light weight target bows and shot for 30 minutes. That felt good.
Now I need to get my metal detector out and detect the park down the road.
Trying to move on.
JS - yer lucky to have a high ceiling basement! mine has joists set at 7' off the concrete floor so i hafta kneel, but it's all good and i'm movin' on, too. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 24, 2020, 06:57:37 AM
I believe that covid-19 will be with us for quite awhile, hopefully get major subdued as the weather warms, but it could also easily emerge come this fall/winter.
Keep in mind that this whole crisis will be in the rear view mirror as soon as an effective vaccine is produced. Normally, this takes years; fast tracking, they estimate a year to a year and a half. However, the "fast track" may not be fast enough for many of us who are old with other worrisome conditions. I would like to see the "fast track" time cut in half by eliminating many of the safety tests and procedures required to release the vaccine. Many of these tests and procedures are in place to avoid lawsuits from people who are injured by a faulty product, even though those who are producing the vaccine may think it is already safe and effective (obviously, they could be wrong).
What I would like to see is early release of the vaccine for those of us willing to sign a release of our right to sue if we are injured by the vaccine. The release would be binding on our relatives and other people who might want to jump on the bandwagon. If I were young and healthy, I would never sign a release like that. As it is, I would sign it in a moment. As the president said, "what have we got to lose?"
i'm highly skeptical of any "vaccines". most that i've reviewed used for flu are loaded with toxins and crap that i wouldn't inject into my dogs let alone humans. i truly believe these "preventatives" are causing more harm than good, and none have the necessary long term testing, particularly those administered to our children. immune boosters make more sense, along with common sense proper precautions. if one has preliminary virus outbreak health issues that compromise the immune system, the need to quarantine thyself is the safest way to go.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-understand-color-office.pdf
I'm not saying that it's not serious but how come we are told to stay home have very little contact with everyone BUT the news media is out everywhere among a lot of people. So much for not spreading this virus oh I forget they are professionals, ya. I guess it's a do as I say thing.
I'm still social distancing at the ranch.
My wife has an uncle in ICU they are expecting to not make it. Diabetic 70+ years old.
They took away his ventilator to give to another patient because he wasn't improving.
Yes it's nasty virus. Still, I'm gonna go home for a couple days. Mostly to get some clothes and tools. Make sure my wife is okay then head back to my fortress of solitude.
Can't shoot my bow with the shoulder down but I can enjoy this spring weather.
Praise God!!!
For my wife and me in our mid 70s our weak link is having to go to the grocery store at least once/week. We will try "senior hour" from 6-7 AM Wed but I've heard horror stories about that. Stores letting everyone in and overcrowding.
To those who have children at home. I know it can be trying but cherish these moments. They grow up way too fast. My geezerly advice.
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 24, 2020, 09:27:16 AM
i'm highly skeptical of any "vaccines". most that i've reviewed used for flu are loaded with toxins and crap that i wouldn't inject into my dogs let alone humans. i truly believe these "preventatives" are causing more harm than good, and none have the necessary long term testing, particularly those administered to our children. immune boosters make more sense, along with common sense proper precautions. if one has preliminary virus outbreak health issues that compromise the immune system, the need to quarantine thyself is the safest way to go.
Well, I've never had any bad side effects from the multitude of vaccines I've taken over the years for everything under the sun that I could be vaccinated for, and I'm sure I've avoided many diseases I would have otherwise gotten, from flu to polio and many others. I'd much rather take my chances with the vaccine than the disease, but you pays your money and you takes your choice. 😋
Quote from: McDave on March 24, 2020, 10:47:03 AM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 24, 2020, 09:27:16 AM
i'm highly skeptical of any "vaccines". most that i've reviewed used for flu are loaded with toxins and crap that i wouldn't inject into my dogs let alone humans. i truly believe these "preventatives" are causing more harm than good, and none have the necessary long term testing, particularly those administered to our children. immune boosters make more sense, along with common sense proper precautions. if one has preliminary virus outbreak health issues that compromise the immune system, the need to quarantine thyself is the safest way to go.
Well, I've never had any bad side effects from the multitude of vaccines I've taken over the years for everything under the sun that I could be vaccinated for, and I'm sure I've avoided many diseases I would have otherwise gotten, from flu to polio and many others. I'd much rather take my chances with the vaccine than the disease, but you pays your money and you takes your choice. 😋
there are differences in the vaccinations of today than those of mid 20th century. while there are some vaccines that have passed the test of time, many have not. the cocktails given to babies/kids today are Very different and like others, i wonder about these child vaccines and their repercussions, particularly with concerns over the dramatic increase in reported child autism. yearly flu vaccines can change monthly if not weekly, or not at all, in attempts to keep up with changing flu strains, and those are all the plague incarnate to me. i do feel i have a better chance of surviving the "flu" on my own terms than getting shot up with formaldehyde, aluminum, antibiotics, and a whole host of other unmentionable "stuff". i feel there is a greater risk with a "flu shot" than knowing my health condition and taking a chance on "catching the flu". yep, just a personal call, and i respect anyone's decision as to what to do or not to do, because do any of us really know what any of this (flu, virus, vaccine) is definitively really all about?
Great job turning this thread back into a CORONA VIRUS thread guys! Thanks a bunch.
The thing that weighs on me is pretty simple. I am old and have 3 conditions that are common in those who do poorly with COVID-19. This will pass in time, but I guarantee some of us older members will not be around when that happens. With that in mind, now is the time to use common sense and especially to fall back on faith to see us through the potential fear and stress of these times.
Quote from: Sam McMichael on March 24, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
The thing that weighs on me is pretty simple. I am old and have 3 conditions that are common in those who do poorly with COVID-19. This will pass in time, but I guarantee some of us older members will not be around when that happens. With that in mind, now is the time to use common sense and especially to fall back on faith to see us through the potential fear and stress of these times.
I'm with you Sam. 69 years old with heart issues. I was just stacking firewood(slowly) and thinking "Wont this still be here after the quarantine/social distancing/lockdown?"
I'm at peace with my here and hereafter, but I'd like it to be my choice, in as much as possible.
Folks come here because it a voice of reasoning where the BS is not tolerated and looking for information granted it's not Traditional Bow related but it's the folks we trust. Rob post about everything we needed to know about COVID-19 I am sure that his information put some folks at ease. Thanks Terry Green and Rob DiStefano and everyone for your help in these times we are all going though. now back to some Trad Gang stuff.
Quote from: trad_bowhunter1965 on March 24, 2020, 03:40:05 PM
Folks come here because it a voice of reasoning where the BS is not tolerated and looking for information granted it's not Traditional Bow related but it's the folks we trust. Rob post about everything we needed to know about COVID-19 I am sure that his information put some folks at ease. Thanks Terry Green and Rob DiStefano and everyone for your help in these times we are all going though. now back to some Trad Gang stuff.
Thank you sir!!! The compass is squirrelly at the moment...but we will find our direction soon...
Just don't need to lose this intatustion!!! There's so much history here!!!!!!
Another dose of reality not found via mainstream media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WinPcASr8xw