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Title: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: valleysniper on January 29, 2020, 06:01:25 PM
I have a 50#@ 29" Blacktail elite. Don't have any experience with wood arrows. Can anyone tell me what spine I would need for this set up. I am thinking about using Zwickey eskimos. Does head weight still play a big part in tuning wood arrows as it does with aluminum and carbon ? I am assuming so. Any suggestions on tip weight also ? Gary
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: FLgary on January 29, 2020, 06:21:27 PM
Depending on your head weight, probably a 60-65 would be a good place to start. Consider Douglas fir as well. Typically run a little heavier than cedar, if your looking to get your arrow weight up
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: Orion on January 29, 2020, 06:29:43 PM
I agree with FL -- 60-65#.  If you in fact draw 29 inches, the poundage will be about 52-53 at your draw length. An eskimo is a relatively light head, about 125 grains, not requiring an increase in spine, but need to add about 5# of spine weight for the extra inch of draw over 28 inches, and another 5# for a low stretch string, which I assume the Blacktail has.  You may need to go higher yet, but 60-65 is a good place to start.   
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: slowbowjoe on January 29, 2020, 06:46:36 PM
X2 on both of the above posts. You can then tweak the tune with point weight &/or arrow length.
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: Ray Lyon on January 29, 2020, 07:42:03 PM
Yep, above is similar to mine
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: snag on January 29, 2020, 09:11:22 PM
Because Blacktail's shelves are cut past center they are more forgiving to spine ranges. I would look at 65/70's.
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: durp on January 29, 2020, 11:10:24 PM
try a test kit of 55/60 60/65 and 65/70...i would call steve at surewood...u can have them cut and taper for ya too
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: MnFn on January 29, 2020, 11:55:06 PM
You are getting very good information here.  I had a 53# VL Blacktail. My draw was slightly under 28", if I recall correctly.  It loved 62-63# spine. Should have never sold it, but I have another Blacktail now.

My Stickflinger is 49# and my Blacktail Sitka 50#, both@28" draw. Will both shoot 65/70 with 160 grain heads.

Snag has been building my arrows for years, he might be right on. Do you actually draw 29"?

I usually shoot 160 grain heads and also like Douglass Fir, and Sitka Spruce.
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: Steelhead on January 30, 2020, 01:26:23 AM
65-70 or 70-75#.

Twenty nine inch draw,30 inch arrow,FF string.Those 4 factors add a lot to proper poundage choice irregardless of actual poundage of bow.
Title: Re: What spine cedar arrow foor my Blacktail
Post by: Petrichor on January 30, 2020, 07:00:55 AM
Assuming you have the 29" draw (that the bow weight suggests) I'd go with 60/65 or 65/70. Bear paw brand spuce are hand spined and +- 5 grains for 28 bucks a dozen.