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Title: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Dave W on January 23, 2020, 07:19:43 PM
At a shoot this past weekend my group had a debate on the definition of a "Robin Hood". 

We finally agreed a real Robin Hood is two successive arrows shot that were in the "10-ring".  Anything that was not in the intended spot and maybe a few shots later from the quiver was just "a very good two arrow group".  The most amazing thing was that 5 traditional archers agreed.  ;)

DW
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Huntschool on January 23, 2020, 07:37:07 PM
To me, a Robin Hood is shooting a second arrow into a previous arrow.....

JMHO
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Orion on January 23, 2020, 07:50:44 PM
Yep.  A Robin Hood is shooting one arrow into the arrow before it.  Shooting groups, in which one eventually shoots an arrow into one of several already in the target, isn't a real Robin Hood, IMO. 
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Deno on January 23, 2020, 08:11:40 PM
X2 what Huntschool and Orion posted.   :archer2:

Deno
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Trenton G. on January 23, 2020, 08:13:26 PM
I remember seeing somewhere when Byron Ferguson said that a Robin hood is two arrows in the bullseye. Anything else is called an accident. I tend to agree with that.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: The Whittler on January 23, 2020, 08:20:38 PM
3rd Huntsschool.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: evgb127 on January 23, 2020, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Trenton G. on January 23, 2020, 08:13:26 PM
I remember seeing somewhere when Byron Ferguson said that a Robin hood is two arrows in the bullseye. Anything else is called an accident. I tend to agree with that.
x2. Hitting your arrow outside of the 10-ring is just an expensive accident.  IMHO, unless you're aiming for the arrow it isn't a Robin Hood.


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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Huntschool on January 23, 2020, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: Orion on January 23, 2020, 07:50:44 PM
Yep.  A Robin Hood is shooting one arrow into the arrow before it.  Shooting groups, in which one eventually shoots an arrow into one of several already in the target, isn't a real Robin Hood, IMO.

Yep... Thats why the big boy compound shooters shoot a 6 spot target....  Who wants to make a $10-20.00 per arrow two lost arrows.  When I shot indoor I started with a single faced bull and after a couple of ruined arrows (yea, I could shoot that good back then) I went to the 6 spot.  Likely not today though.

At 3D matches in my fingers sighted compound days we all had arrows with different colored nocks so no one could see your nock if the shot looked good.....

Just sayin......
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: reddogge on January 24, 2020, 10:30:37 AM
In 3-D aiming at your friend's arrow that is in the sweet spot is perfectly acceptable and encouraged in our group. If you hit it you are allowed to take the two arrows and mount them in your man cave.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: McDave on January 24, 2020, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: evgb127 on January 23, 2020, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Trenton G. on January 23, 2020, 08:13:26 PM
I remember seeing somewhere when Byron Ferguson said that a Robin hood is two arrows in the bullseye. Anything else is called an accident. I tend to agree with that.
x2. Hitting your arrow outside of the 10-ring is just an expensive accident.  IMHO, unless you're aiming for the arrow it isn't a Robin Hood.


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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: GCook on January 24, 2020, 10:58:28 AM
Quote from: reddogge on January 24, 2020, 10:30:37 AM
In 3-D aiming at your friend's arrow that is in the sweet spot is perfectly acceptable and encouraged in our group. If you hit it you are allowed to take the two arrows and mount them in your man cave.
Yep.  Back in the day we made bets on popping nocks.
I'm not that accurate anymore.  Can't play ball or do a lot of things like back then actually. [emoji848]

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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Pat B on January 24, 2020, 12:12:32 PM
A true "Robin Hood" would be as the mythical Robin Hood's shot, splitting the arrow that would have won the contest sitting in the center of the 10 ring. If Robin Hood had just shot the arrow in the 10 ring he wouldn't have won the contest.   :readit:
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: BAK on January 24, 2020, 03:42:23 PM
My first "Robin Hood" was shot in front of about 20 witnesses on a league night.  First arrow in the center of the bull, second arrow stuck in the first.  That was special.   :archer2:
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Dave W on January 24, 2020, 03:48:19 PM
No doubt, that was a great place and time to have your first!

D
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Bowguy67 on January 24, 2020, 07:25:42 PM
To me a Robin Hood needn't hit any ten ring but if you're referring to hitting exactly where you aimed and than repeating the next shot, that'd be it.
Now when guys shoot 5-6 arrows together n do it, it doesn't mean much more than you got lucky
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: GCook on January 24, 2020, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: Bowguy67 on January 24, 2020, 07:25:42 PM
To me a Robin Hood needn't hit any ten ring but if you're referring to hitting exactly where you aimed and than repeating the next shot, that'd be it.
Now when guys shoot 5-6 arrows together n do it, it doesn't mean much more than you got lucky
I would say unlucky myself.  Expensive mistake.

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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Bowguy67 on January 25, 2020, 07:23:42 AM
Shooting a bunch of arrows n hitting one is more "luck" in a sense than hitting a mark. If it's just sorta almost there and it hits another errant arrow that's sorta luck. Idk if I'm describing my thoughts properly but that's the jist and it's all just opinion anyhow.
I've seen guys so excited at a first Robin Hood yet they were way off mark. If that's what floats a guys boat so be it. Personally I lean more towards real accomplishment but I understand the novelty of it.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on January 25, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
Quote from: McDave on January 24, 2020, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: evgb127 on January 23, 2020, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Trenton G. on January 23, 2020, 08:13:26 PM
I remember seeing somewhere when Byron Ferguson said that a Robin hood is two arrows in the bullseye. Anything else is called an accident. I tend to agree with that.
x2. Hitting your arrow outside of the 10-ring is just an expensive accident.  IMHO, unless you're aiming for the arrow it isn't a Robin Hood.


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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on January 25, 2020, 05:11:54 PM
A Robin Hood is ok.
But a DOUBLE Robin Hood is way more classy  :goldtooth:

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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Pat B on January 25, 2020, 05:32:24 PM
You didn't happen to get a video of those shots did you?   :saywhat:
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on January 25, 2020, 05:41:10 PM
Yes every time I practice I set a video of course in case of something happens. When I go to the bathroom as well.
I know it seems incredible but it is true. If you want the story it was on Christmas Day and I was shooting 23 m. A kind of Christmas miracle....and an insane luck
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: BAK on January 26, 2020, 09:11:40 AM
I know we all call one arrow sticking into another a Robin Hood, but in reality nearly all are just pure bad luck.  The only true Robin Hood is the one you called, where you aimed the second arrow at the first and nailed it.   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: McDave on January 26, 2020, 09:55:17 AM
Quote from: BAK on January 26, 2020, 09:11:40 AM
I know we all call one arrow sticking into another a Robin Hood, but in reality nearly all are just pure bad luck.  The only true Robin Hood is the one you called, where you aimed the second arrow at the first and nailed it.   :notworthy:

Well, from now on, consider any arrow I happen to shoot into the bulls eye to be "called."
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: blacktailbob on January 26, 2020, 06:52:49 PM
I call it EVERY TIME I practice. Only happened twice in 61 years but I keep calling it.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: KillerBiteFuzz on January 26, 2020, 07:07:53 PM
Quote from: hybridbow hunter on January 25, 2020, 05:11:54 PM
A Robin Hood is ok.
But a DOUBLE Robin Hood is way more classy  :goldtooth:

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Pretty Bow what is it


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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: lt-m-grow on January 27, 2020, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: Huntschool on January 23, 2020, 08:57:38 PM
Quote from: Orion on January 23, 2020, 07:50:44 PM
Yep.  A Robin Hood is shooting one arrow into the arrow before it.  Shooting groups, in which one eventually shoots an arrow into one of several already in the target, isn't a real Robin Hood, IMO.

Yep... Thats why the big boy compound shooters shoot a 6 spot target....  Who wants to make a $10-20.00 per arrow two lost arrows.  When I shot indoor I started with a single faced bull and after a couple of ruined arrows (yea, I could shoot that good back then) I went to the 6 spot.  Likely not today though.

At 3D matches in my fingers sighted compound days we all had arrows with different colored nocks so no one could see your nock if the shot looked good.....

Just sayin......


Huh...never heard of a six spot target.   1s, 3s, and 5s but never a six
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: YosemiteSam on January 27, 2020, 12:48:16 PM
There was an archery shop near Sacramento back in the 90s that had a wall of "Robin Hood" shots made on their range.  They were mostly aluminum but some carbons.  So the arrows were permanently stuck inside the other.

As I recall the legend, it was as Pat B described -- no other shot could have won except by splitting the arrow taking up the real estate on the target.  Since even a minor deflection would have landed the shot less than perfect, splitting the arrow was about as perfect a shot as would have been possible.

I've often wondered what kind of point they were using?  2-blade head or bodkin?  A bladed head could achieve that split a little easier, I'd think.  But a bodkin or something like it would be quite a bit harder, if not impossible.  But then I remember that it's just a story & I need to let it go.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: GCook on January 27, 2020, 07:43:01 PM
We use to do it with just field points.  I thought I was gonna have to fight a fella one day after I split the second one of his arrows and popped one of his nocks in between.
He never asked to shoot with us again though.[emoji23][emoji1787][emoji23]

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Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: Petrichor on January 28, 2020, 09:43:56 AM
With wood arrows I have had field points destroy the nock and split 6 to 8 inches down the shaft but have never had a woodie stick in another woodie with a field point. Points are so big and arrows are fragile enough i dont know if it would would ever truly stick and stay in.  I'm not sure the spruce is strong enough to keep the other arrow in without just busting.  Good news is that I can usually.glue the arrow back together clamp it and once dry throw a new nock on and the arrows fly no worse for wear.

I have had a wood arrow bisect another shot from a different angle and stick in. I call this the little john.
Title: Re: Robin Hood or Not?
Post by: reddogge on January 28, 2020, 09:55:26 AM
You'd need some pretty straight grain to split one all the way down and we don't seem to have a lot of that these days.