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Title: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: 76Aggie on January 08, 2020, 03:01:06 PM
I am a fair shot but not a dead eye shot consistently.  I have thought about a kisser button.  I know my problem is not hitting my exact anchor point every time I draw.  Any thoughts on Kisser buttons?  Anybody use one?
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Tim Finley on January 08, 2020, 03:06:37 PM
My wife used to use one it worked good for her .
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Post by: stagetek on January 08, 2020, 03:47:28 PM
I believe tournament archers used them all the time. I can't see why they wouldn't work for hunting situations.
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Steve Crowl on January 08, 2020, 05:13:29 PM
I used them when shooting target archery with sights while anchored under the chin. Shooting traditional most folks have one of their fingers anchored in the corner of the mouth rather than a kisser button.
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: McDave on January 08, 2020, 05:57:03 PM
If you're not a dead eye shot consistently, it's not because you're not using a kisser button.  It's some form and/or tuning issue. Granted, not coming to a consistent anchor might be one of those form issues, but if you're like most of us, it's just one of many items on the list.  I remember when I shot compounds, I had a problem with my kisser button one time, and one reason I switched to trad was to get away from all those equipment problems that sprang up unexpectedly. You can learn to come to a consistent anchor without using a kisser button.  It's not even close to the top of the hardest things we have to learn to shoot the trad bow accurately. Or, you can use a kisser button. You pays your money and you takes your choice.
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: RJonesRCRV on January 08, 2020, 07:16:57 PM
I started anchoring with the stitch welt of my Neet glove at the corner of my mouth.  But when I added touching the fletch to the tip of my nose as the second part of my anchor, my shooting got much better.  The fletch to my nose also helps make sure I get good back tension, as long as I'm not stretching my neck to get my nose to the fletch.
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Krex1010 on January 09, 2020, 11:26:39 AM
I can't really imagine where a kisser button would contact my face on a trad bow unless my anchor point was really low. A clicker really helped me get my anchor point cleaned up and consistent. Have you considered a clicker?
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Wudstix on January 09, 2020, 11:57:21 AM
Personally, my anchor is a three point one.  Second finger in corner of mouth, string tucked slightly behind/along nose, and thumb hooked on the edge of my jaw.  If I hit the first two I'm good, if I hit all three I'm golden.
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Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: 76Aggie on January 09, 2020, 12:56:45 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys.  I have never used a kisser button and have never even owned one.  It is just something I am contemplating.  I fully realize there are probably several issues on my part.  Touching the fletching to the tip of my nose is something I had not thought of.  Will try that. I had envisioned the kisser button touching my nose but will not know till I install one.  As far as a clicker goes, I have not yet considered that.  I always want to be a better shot and would like to improve my scores at 3D shoots which will soon be cranking up.

Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Badlands on January 09, 2020, 06:24:46 PM
A sniffer button??
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: McDave on January 09, 2020, 09:14:03 PM
A kisser button is supposed to touch the corner of your lips, which is why they call it a kisser button, unless you're an Eskimo. Assuming you have a consistent anchor otherwise, if you want to touch your nose to the string, I don't think you need a kisser button to get a consistent anchor on the string.  Normally, people who touch their nose to the string use an under the chin anchor, which is a little low for trad archery distances.   At trad archery distances, nose to feather seems to work better.  Remember that the lower your anchor, the farther away is your point on distance. In trad archery, we would like to have a point on distance of about 25 yards, which is difficult to get without some help, such as a fixed crawl. With an under the chin anchor, your point on distance will be 50 yards, + or -. 
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: 76Aggie on January 10, 2020, 08:52:26 AM
Thanks David.  Thank you all as well for your suggestions.
Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Walt Francis on January 10, 2020, 04:12:51 PM
My experience is the kisser button and the feather to the nose are mind of good for training but they do not work for hunting.  If you never cover your face or it doesn't get cold they might work.  The first time the weather turns cold you cannot feel either of them.  Both methods have cost me animals on different occasions.  Once I practiced all spring and summer with the kisser until it become a trigger mechanism then let an elk walk on a late season hunt because I couldn't feel the button through the balacava.  The feather method failed when it got to cold to feel it hit my nose while drawing on doe in October.
I'd use either method for working on form......if I could prevent it from becoming a trigger or check point......But then that is the purpose if them.

Title: Re: Opinions on Kisser Button
Post by: Babbling Bob on January 12, 2020, 09:46:56 AM
Haven't seen them used in years.  They do help line up the string for using sights for those who shot the freestyle division long ago, so they do line up a vertical bow shooting setup pretty good and provide a consistent point of anchor. 

An instructor I had once would throw kisses at the sight shooters to make them mad, but he had a chip on his shoulders regarding the use of sights. Don't see that anymore either, and that's good.