Over the past five years, most of my sightings of deer have been either pre-dawn or dusk/twilight. I've been considering switching to carbons (from woodies) for my broadhead arrows to utilize lighted nocks; not only for quick arrow location/recovery in case I miss (which never, ever happens :laughing:) but also for seeing where the hit is, and to be able to get an idea of where the deer, squirrel or rabbit is heading as they vanish in the darkness, and hopefully, a locator beacon once they're down. For those that have used them; are they as effective as the hype leads you to believe, and if so, which ones work the best? I've also seen some reference in the past that certain lighted nock colors are far more visible in a deep-woods situation, if so, which colors?
Someone, somewhere had also written a review about how certain nocks wouldn't trigger using lighter recurve bows compared to modern compounds, which I'm not buying...but any reports on this from the field?
Thanks.
I'm really interested in the as well. My only concern would be how well they fit on a B50 string since it is a bit larger than a compound string.
Quote from: Trenton G. on October 23, 2019, 11:58:39 AM
I'm really interested in the as well. My only concern would be how well they fit on a B50 string since it is a bit larger than a compound string.
Excellent point. Never even thought about that.
I've got some carbons with lighted nocks for my compound. I'm not seeing patients today, so I'll grab a couple and shoot them with my 50# recurve and see if they light up.
I'm sure they will be hella stiff since it's for a 70# compound, but it'll answer one question anyway!
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I shoot nocturnal lighted nocks out of my longbow, the nock fit is a little loose but that can be remedied with some thread to build up the string, and they light up every time I shoot them. Some people have sort of smirked at me using them with otherwise traditional gear, but I don't see a problem as they only aid in deer recovery, they have no benefit towards actually making the shot.
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I got some that were on sale at 3 Rivers to try out roving. They were fun to use, and definitely made it easier to see the arrow in flight and when searching for it in the grass and bushes, but they only were good for 30-40 shots before they broke. The battery was good for a lot longer than that. In fact, I forgot to turn one off one time, or maybe it got turned on accidentally as I was putting it away, and it was still burning the next morning. Probably you wouldn't need to get 30-40 shots out of one hunting, but that make them too expensive for me to use roving.
Quote from: McDave on October 23, 2019, 12:37:38 PM
I got some that were on sale at 3 Rivers to try out roving. They were fun to use, and definitely made it easier to see the arrow in flight and when searching for it in the grass and bushes, but they only were good for 30-40 shots before they broke. The battery was good for a lot longer than that. In fact, I forgot to turn one off one time, or maybe it got turned on accidentally as I was putting it away, and it was still burning the next morning. Probably you wouldn't need to get 30-40 shots out of one hunting, but that make them too expensive for me to use roving.
I can agree with that. However, most of my roving/stumping is done in broad daylight, which makes arrow recovery and shot placement much easier. Several years ago, I shot at a big doe and missed; I misjudged the distance and shot right under her low, actually trimming some belly hair off her in the process. It was about 5 minutes after sunset (hunting regs here allow hunting until 30 minutes after legal sunset) and I searched for that arrow for quite along time before my light found the white cap dip. I was thinking that a lighted nock would have taken me straight there, and would have clearly showed my miss (I wasn't sure if I'd hit her or not).
I have been using nocturnal and they are very bright but for my skinny string I just needed to put gentle heat on the prong of the nock and bend it in for a good fit, sounds harsh but it is simple to do, I am shooting a 50# longbow. I have just made a set with the nocks I like and just awaiting the bobber battery's to try my own version but with the led in the nock and a watch battery it is very bright so i think they will work out great,regards wayne
I use them and no trouble on my string. I shoot gold trip traditionals. They help tremendously in arrow recovery and seeing where you hit.
Quote from: wapitishooter on October 23, 2019, 01:20:58 PM
They help tremendously in arrow recovery and seeing where you hit.
That was my reasoning...thank you for the testimonial! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
As far as recovery goes, what if you get a pass through?
That's not all that uncommon and then your still in the same situation having to trail the game anyway.
I can see how they would be neat to watch them in flight, but after that, it's just a novelty and a gimmick.
But that's just my thoughts about it and I wouldn't think anything wrong about someone using them.
I'll stick with my string tracker. The batteries don't go dead.
I will add that I have heard good things about Lumenok
what i really like from them is you see exactly where you hit, even if you get a pass through, sometimes in certain light I couldn't see my arrow flight, even less so when I try and find my arrow in grass or leaf litter with the lighted nock it is a lot easier. for me I like them
Quote from: Pine on October 23, 2019, 02:02:13 PM
As far as recovery goes, what if you get a pass through?
That's not all that uncommon and then your still in the same situation having to trail the game anyway.
I can see how they would be neat to watch them in flight, but after that, it's just a novelty and a gimmick.
But that's just my thoughts about it and I wouldn't think anything wrong about someone using them.
I'll stick with my string tracker. The batteries don't go dead.
I will add that I have heard good things about Lumenok
In a pass-thru situation, you would at least know you had a solid hit and where, and also you would have little trouble finding the arrow in dense brush.
I love the idea of a string tracker for sure, but as I read the regs, they are not legal where I hunt. Stupid, but true.
I use Nockturnals in my shafts. Works fine.
After 30 or so shots, I'm about 60/40 on lighting vs not using Spot Nocks
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I shoot a couple of brands. I like them. I've used them with the bows that must not be named as well as my trad bows. I personally like them. I tad expensive and they aren't necessarily 100% reusable as I've had a few that were one and done. But like one early morning last season I was sitting in a tripod and bleated at a passing doe, shot her through a basketball sized hole in the tree branches I had trimmed out. She ran about 80 yards. I could see the nock barely sticking out of the near side. I saw it stop and do a little circle then disappear. Even though I couldn't really see the deer through the brush I knew she was down.
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They are definitely worth it for hunting. Cabela's had the 3-pack Nockturnals on sale before season for around $11-12. I had the blue Nockturnals my first trad season, and went with green ever since. I will only use them on targets if I shoot once before the hunt. I've used the same one on three different deer. Wash them out before turning them off as soon as you can and there won't be any problem. It doesn't take much pressure to set them off either. Put a little floss on your nock point if they wiggle.
Green will be the brightest. Red is the hardest to see. I played in a night golf tourney a while back and those red balls could be 50yds from you on the fairway and still hard to see. Green stuck out well over 100yds.
I use them occaionally. For hogs I usually have bad luck regarding finding the hog from the nock. They usually break the nock running through brush or fallilng on that side.
I shot a doe last night, and the nice part about using them at dusk is how quickly you can find your arrow and assess what type of blood you have. Honestly the arrow passed through so fast, that I couldn't be 100% sure on where the hit was. It is easier to tell when you don't pass through.
I enjoy bare shafting or target shooting with them, actually. Really helpful to check for erratic arrow flight. I have tried a few types, but really like the green nockturnal nocks.
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Quote from: pdk25 on October 23, 2019, 06:08:09 PM
I use them occaionally. For hogs I usually have bad luck regarding finding the hog from the nock. They usually break the nock running through brush or fallilng on that side.
I shot a doe last night, and the nice part about using them at dusk is how quickly you can find your arrow and assess what type of blood you have. Honestly the arrow passed through so fast, that I couldn't be 100% sure on where the hit was. It is easier to tell when you don't pass through.
I enjoy bare shafting or target shooting with them, actually. Really helpful to check for erratic arrow flight. I have tried a few types, but really like the green nockturnal nocks.
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That's my combo. BE Instinct in green/yellow with a green nock
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How much do they affect arrow tune?
I have used them for many years. I use them in conjunction with a string tracker and consider them just another part of my recovery system. I have actually been blood trailing hogs and have seen them moving ahead of me. Pretty valuable on hogs, bear and deer.
Nocturnals in green are my favorites.
Quote from: KentuckyWolf on October 23, 2019, 06:59:42 PM
How much do they affect arrow tune?
Negligible effect in my experience
I have been using Lumanocks for the last 4-5 years. It makes following the arrow flight sooo easy! I always know right where the arrow hit and it also makes the arrow easier to find on pass thrus or drop outs. My eyes aren't getting any better at 69 and these really work great. It always reminds me of shooting a laser. I shoot mine on aluminums. For me there is no change in arrow flight at all.
I like the idea - and guys if you aren't already using reflector caps you need to try em I love those things super easy finding arrows usually blood soaked along the trail - ordered 3 lighted nocks this morning:)
I really like the Clean Shot Nock Out, it's a one size fits all via the use of bushings. It also has a lock off feature for practicing with them. I don't outfit every arrow with them, but I generally try to grab them first, anything helps with recovery, arrow and animal!
I've used them for a few years now, and they work fine out of my 47lb Peregrine. 2 deer in particular were found quickly due to the lighted nocks. They were fairly steep angle shots that didn't have a passthru so no bloodtrail to follow. I marked the last spot I saw them at and backed out til dark. Both were found fairly quickly after that. I love them.
Shot a small buck last evening with Gold Tip 500 and a green nocturnal lighted nock. I almost got a complete pass through... I thought I had missed (thought he jumped string sufficiently to cause a high miss). Couldn't see the lighted nock until it started getting darker... about 30 minutes after the shot. Then I noticed it up the trail he ran away on... the Simmons Tiger Shark had caught on a small sapling and pulled the arrow on through. I went straight to the arrow which was about 30 yards from where he had been standing when I shot. The blood trail was great... and I found him about 50 more yards away.
I absolutely love them, especially as I grow older and my eyes dim. I carry one arrow equipped with the nocturnal nock and put it on the string first in the early morning... or when the sun begins to set in the evening.
I haven't noticed any effect on arrow flight/spine.
They are also a blast to shoot in the yard in low light and you can detect flight problems easier while shooting them.
Just started making some to try with nocks I like, just waiting on the battery's but they look good so far.
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I've used them a little, with mixed results. The deer I shot last fall was during the daylight, and the lighted nock didn't help at all in determining shot placement. The arrow passed through and buried under the snow, and the light didn't help me find it. On another occasion, around dusk, the arrow burried under the leaf debris and the light didn't help me find it then either.
The light can actually be a bit deceiving in determining shot placement. From above, on a pass through, the hit can look higher than it actually is. In low light conditions, I have had the nock indicate that my arrow hit brush and deflected. Probably could have determined that without the light though.
I use Nocturnals. One thing I find disconcerting is that (because the light is turned on with a plunger in the nock activated by the string, usually at release) the nock sometimes lights up as I'm drawing the arrow. This is distracting in low light situations.
My nocks are red. I think green shows up better.
I haven't noticed any difference in arrow tune. There's only a 10-15 grain difference in weight between a lighted nock and standard nock. Doesn't make enough difference for me too notice.
Regardless, I don't think I'll be using them this year.
Lots of info on the midnight arrow thread....
Occasionally, you'll lose one. but they make seeing where exactly you hit and finding your arrow a lot easier. They are cheaper to make. Go on youtube and see the video of how to make your own.
I like lighted nocks for low light hunting. Here in Europe we have large wild boars ( sus scrofa) that are rather nocturnal animals. They are dangerous too and it is better to be sure of your shot before going for the recovery in thick stuff. In addition they are dark and not easy to see. When shooting in very last legal light these nocks help to see the point of impact and to follow the run away path. It is easier to find the arrow as well.
Here is my Friday evening shot and early saturday morning recovery. Of a 200+ #
Wild boar. To have an idea of how big is that beast, bow is 66" long and arrow in the long hooded GN quiver are 36" long
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Nocturnals on two occasions have given me fits...no more.
1st pack the nocks broke on the shot, and the second pick two of the three would light up just putting them on the string....
AND, nocturnals were originally recommended to me by someone in the know....who said they all suck.
NOW I hear great things about fire nocks...expensive but they actually work. Still waiting on them to arrive.
I use them for hogs but not deer as I use wood arrows for deer hunting . I like the Idea that you can see an animal run off in the dark and know his path, makes it easier to find the blood trails .
In testing FIRENOCKS I found them to be pretty good. I ran into a few glitches, but overall pretty good high-end nocks.
I am currently testing BREADCRUMB nocks, another high-end, light-up nock. I will publish the test report on a Trad Gang thread as soon as I am finished testing. They were developed for the crazy speeds of compounds and x-bows. I am going to verify whether they are useful for lower speeds and heavier arrows used with traditional bows and hunting. so far, the built-in accelerometer seems to have a good range of sensitivity.
Helped a friend find a deer once, very little blood on the arrow and not much blood trail. I was sure he had made a bad shot and didn't hit it where he thought he had. He used a lighted nock and was sure of the hit location because of the lighted nock.
I've tried them ( don remember the brand) and they were not very durable. Some only worked for a few shots, some would not always light up. I tried them because of my friends experience using them.
Yeah Nocturnals were iffy for me. I've been running Glory nocs for a while with better results.
I will try the "washing them before shutting them off" recommendation as that seems to be where I lose them.
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I sure thought about trying them when I went to Africa, just to have them show up on a video, but decided the price was a little steep for me. I thought it better to invest the money is good broadheads instead.
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Quote from: acolobowhunter on October 30, 2019, 05:47:25 PM
I sure thought about trying them when I went to Africa, just to have them show up on a video, but decided the price was a little steep for me. I thought it better to invest the money is good broadheads instead.
I always thought that was mandatory....who would invest POORLY in the most important equipment??????
Very true...but when you have expensive broadheads, you want to make sure you can find them!
A pass-through in the area I hunt means a very long, diligent search for the arrow. Lots of high grass with matted down cover. Thinking lighted nocks might be a godsend in that situation.
True but if I afford to go to Africa the half dozen, or even dozen, $8 each nocks will be just a drop in the bucket and I will gladly buy them.
But, I doubt I will ever get to go to the dark continent. Not because I cannot afford to but because I keep investing money into land here in Texas. :knothead:
I always use them while hunting. They're worth their weight in gold to me. String trackers in heavy brush on hogs rarely stay together for me.
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Amazing the different results we get! I don't doubt what you all are saying, but as stated, the nocturnals have been great. No failures, had some of them for 3 years... haven't even had a battery to die yet.
I keep 2 arrows in my quiver with lighted nocks, I use the Carbon Express nock and have not had any issues. I have red and blue and for me the blue seems more visible in most cases. The CE nock weighs 19 grains, whether or not that would be noticeable compared to the standard 11 grain CE nock I don't know, but in my non-lighted arrows I use the old Beman Vibranocks which also weigh in at 19 grains so there is no difference for me.
Thanks to dahyer for sharing this info with me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgfPWmvLW4&feature=youtu.be
This sounds like a win/win to me!
Thanks, Dave! :thumbsup:
Fire Nocks....best I've found by far. :readit:
Quote from: Terry Green on November 05, 2019, 10:19:07 AM
Fire Nocks....best I've found by far. :readit:
Who sells those, Terry? Did not see them listed on 3Rivers site...
Quote from: fnshtr on October 30, 2019, 09:23:09 PM
Amazing the different results we get! I don't doubt what you all are saying, but as stated, the nocturnals have been great. No failures, had some of them for 3 years... haven't even had a battery to die yet.
Crazy huh?....both my experiences were horrible.
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Quote from: Terry Green on November 05, 2019, 10:19:07 AM
Fire Nocks....best I've found by far. :readit:
Who sells those, Terry? Did not see them listed on 3Rivers site...
I got mine from D n M Arrows...Sponsor
3 Rivers might be carrying them soon
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Quote from: Captain*Kirk on November 05, 2019, 08:34:39 AM
Thanks to dahyer for sharing this info with me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVgfPWmvLW4&feature=youtu.be
This sounds like a win/win to me!
Thanks, Dave! :thumbsup:
No problem happy to help another woodie shooter
Instead of answering several E mails I've replied to them to check this post since this is where it originated....
I had 2 out of 3 nocturnals break four years ago on the shot....
One was off of my bow and 1 was off an employee of mines bow..... Luckily I went on to kill several pheasants and hogs with that bow Before a guy on the pheasant hunt demanded are still him the bow.. And my employee went on to deer hunt with it at wild things...... Luckily no bow was harmed in the almost dry fires!!!!
Now recently I received 3 more nocturnals and 2 of them lit up while knocking them on the bow string ....
You have been warned....
You can have them on wood arrows now
https://youtu.be/gVgfPWmvLW4
A lighted nock was key to a quick recovery for me Saturday evening.
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I use the newer GloryNock sometimes. They turn on most of the time when shot from my 48# Kodiak. They have a really easy - no tools needed - way yo turn them off once activated. They are the best I have seen so far.
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I've been using Nocturnal nocks for years. Before that another brand that worked on targets but NEVER on deer. Lumenocks. Nocturnal nocks have preformed perfectly for me for years. For the dude who went to Africa to bowhunt but couldn't afford a $10 nock. I'm sorry! lol No hard feelings but I wouldn't go hunting again without a lighted nock. To be clear with my back ground. I make my own laminated bows, strings, turkey fletching, do my own butchering and taxidermy, etc etc. But I feel strongly about the positive results of using a lighted nock.
They are heavy compared to regular nocks by the shaft maker.. If you hunt with them, you need to tune and practice with them.
Easiest thing is to find ones that no longer work and use them for practice
Quote from: Wheels2 on November 06, 2019, 11:02:31 PM
They are heavy compared to regular nocks by the shaft maker.. If you hunt with them, you need to tune and practice with them.
Easiest thing is to find ones that no longer work and use them for practice
Good point; good idea. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Wheels2 on November 06, 2019, 11:02:31 PM
They are heavy compared to regular nocks by the shaft maker.. If you hunt with them, you need to tune and practice with them.
Easiest thing is to find ones that no longer work and use them for practice
I'd say if wet feathers don't throw off your tune lighted nocks will not either. The weight difference is less between the two. I don't practice with them although I did check the flight with them before hunting with them. Just like I do broadheads.
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Just curious LC...if they are outlawed and not made anymore will you stop bowhunting?
Kirk....6 nocks cost more than 6 quality Zwickeys....just gotta make sure Fake News doesn't get started here :goldtooth:
I'd quit bowhunting if nocturnals were the only nocks available. What a JOKE those things are. So bad I don't ever WANT to go bowhunting again with ANY lighted BS techno crap nock!!!! :readit: :readit: :readit: :readit: :readit:
Wont hunt without them? kidding but do use them on the curve - the ones I use are for axis arrows but cant remember brand name? they are green nocks and it is cool to watch them fly in low light. If hunting and you shoot one you can see it pass through, also see it laying on the ground so finding arrow to inspect the blood evidence is eezy peeze? you can see it in the as they run and use it for marking their escape route? and if target shooting they just look cool to the kiddies watching -
I actually did shoot a deer without lighted nock the other day - it ws a fast shot and I totally thought I had hit the deer closer to my stand than I actually had?? luckily knew which way he ran and all - had to determine it was a liver/gut hit by blood I found. Luckily we tracked him up fairly easy and he died quickly BUT i didnt find my arrow to the next day and it showed me I had totally messed up where I thought that deer was standing at the shot? I thought he was 10/15 he was actually about 25. Lighted nock I would have saved alot of time looking for point of impact.
Cheers and good hunting -
J
Never had an issue with them lighting up at shot?
Edit: they are nocturnals! or how ever you spell it? they are harder to turn off but never had an issue with them lighting up on string? they do wear out and quit working but I get a good life span out of them?? especially since I do shoot them in practice sessions? hunting?? I mean I put them on once and I dont take them off until I have to change them out??? I do same with broadheads? I dont practice with field points in my yard? just of I go shoot someone elses yard or #d and they dont want we using BHds.
each his own do as you wish for your own well being -
Quote from: Terry Green on November 07, 2019, 05:37:07 AM
Just curious LC...if they are outlawed and not made anymore will you stop bowhunting?
Kirk....6 nocks cost more than 6 quality Zwickeys....just gotta make sure Fake News doesn't get started here :goldtooth:
6 Zwickeys will run you about $40 and 6 lighted nocks about $50. Of course the half dozen Vintage shafts run me $50. Another six to ten dollars to fletch them. So $150 or so in a half dozen arrows set up to hunt.
$25/arrow.
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I like Toyota Tacomas. I have two. One have 287,000 miles on it and is the truck I use for my business. The other is new and has 3000 miles on it and is my personal truck.
Others like Chevy or Nissan or Ford. All of us can tell horror stories about a vehicle brand.
Same with anything else. Including lighted nocks. As technology advances so does the quality and reliability of lighted nocks.
They are working on GPS tracking nocks. If you are against technology that's okay. But if you are on here berating technology then you're a bit confused. This computer/internet/forum technology allows a wonderful exchange of knowledge and experience. So it's not all bad. Just how we use it is good or bad.
String trackers have been around forever and have helped hunters find plenty of game. But they aren't fool proof either.
If they were restricted I wouldn't use them but they have been helpful to me so I do. When one fails is it frustrating? Of course it is. $8 for a tiny thing and it doesn't work is frustrating. But as pointed out I spend a lot of money on archery and hunting. Those half dozen lighted nocks I buy every year or two are just a drop in the bucket.
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Quote from: Terry Green on November 07, 2019, 05:37:07 AM
Just curious LC...if they are outlawed and not made anymore will you stop bowhunting?
Kirk....6 nocks cost more than 6 quality Zwickeys....just gotta make sure Fake News doesn't get started here :goldtooth:
No fake news here! :thumbsup:
Yeah, I realize the expense. But I've lost a nice broadhead arrow or two, and to me, the bigger issue is locating that arrow immediately if a miss or pass-thru so you can get back to hunting again or tracking, as the situation warrants... :saywhat:
Hopefully, the nocks can be reused if you break or trash an arrow, so that averages the cost out.
FWIW, I looked into string trackers...they are illegal here in Illinois. Why? I dunno...:dunno:
EDIT:I might add, I would only use the lighted nock arrows during low light scenarios.
Here ya go.....just a few..... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :thumbsup:
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Just curious LC...if they are outlawed and not made anymore will you stop bowhunting?
Kirk....6 nocks cost more than 6 quality Zwickeys....just gotta make sure Fake News doesn't get started here :goldtooth:
Like I stated I hunted WAY before training wheels came along. But of all the "advancements" that have came along about the only thing I would absolutely hate to see go is lighted nocks. And yes I've use bright fletching and fur fletch but NOTHING compares to a lighted nock and knowing where your shot went! PERIOD
What I don't understand is why everyone thinks lighted nocks have to cost $60 dollars for six nocks? Last I checked they are roughly $10 a piece. YOU ONLY NEED ONE! No one says you have to have a lighted nock for every arrow you own. Gheez!
Quote from: LC on November 07, 2019, 08:00:25 PM
What I don't understand is why everyone thinks lighted nocks have to cost $60 dollars for six nocks? Last I checked they are roughly $10 a piece. YOU ONLY NEED ONE! No one says you have to have a lighted nock for every arrow you own. Gheez!
My bow quivers hold 3-4 arrows. If 1, possibly 2, of them have lighted nocks for the dusk/dawn shots, that's fine. The rest can all be regular nock, but I would like to have one lighted nock arrow to practice with so there would be no surprises.
I have four working ones left out of two packs of three.
I agree many may need only one.
But I've emptied a five arrow quiver shooting pigs quite a few times so I keep at least two in the quiver with lighted nocks.
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Quote from: Terry Green on November 07, 2019, 10:47:22 AM
Here ya go.....just a few..... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :thumbsup:
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Geez...is that like the old folks' home for 'retired' arrows? If so, you must not have much wall space left for mounts!
Quote from: Captain*Kirk on November 08, 2019, 02:28:12 PM
Quote from: Terry Green on November 07, 2019, 10:47:22 AM
Here ya go.....just a few..... :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :thumbsup:
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Geez...is that like the old folks' home for 'retired' arrows? If so, you must not have much wall space left for mounts!
I don't....that's why I got a skull mount of my Impala.
Quote from: Terry Green on November 08, 2019, 02:33:12 PM
I don't....that's why I got a skull mount of my Impala.
Sounds like it's time to knock a wall out and put on an addition!
I've bought singles at Academy before. Gave $4 each on clearance.
Hard part is finding the ones to fit your arrows. My BE use S size and my other bow uses H.
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If you don't want to use them don't.
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Who was that comment directed at cook?
Do you hunt with only one arrow ...that you found in the junk bin at a big box store?
No Mr. Green, actually I have a dozen Black Eagle Vintage shafts. I fletch them myself with left wing feathers using a Bitz and I have an Apple arrow saw to cut them with. I also have a half dozen Beaman shafts.
I do buy what I can on sale and I shop at big box stores often. I have to try on boots and such before I buy them. Academy is a Texas based store so you may not be familiar with it. Also we have a great archery pro shop nearby (Cinamon Creek Ranch) and I get some supplies there which is where I buy what I can. Although now that I seldom hunt with a bow that must not be named that's less and less.
However most of my traditional archery supplies come from 3Rivers. I used to shop more at KustomKing but due to a couple of issues, including selection, I've sort of just moved that directon.
As for your first question I'm pretty sure you are aware I was speaking to you. Or you wouldn't have felt the need to post those questions.
It's your board and your rules. Just because it isn't your way of doing trad doesn't make it wrong.
I don't like to just blatantly disrespect any individual but I also don't like to be treated that way either.
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Cook....you must not be paying attention....hence my mention of the Midnight arrow thread.
Smoking Joe an I have been testing lighted nocks for months....4 different brands.
I personally dont use them.... but then again I'm working to get my first big game trad animal so tracking hasn't been an issue lol. I did watch an interesting video on youtube where a lighted nock was used and the guy was convinced he hit and it looked perfect until the video was replayed in slow motion and you could see the deer move so fast he missed completely. I'm sure there are good ones out there and I am sure they could be of use but at the moment I'm not worried about using them.
That's what I thought but some of your comments confused me.
Which is not uncommon for me to misunderstand some things.
I read the thread when it started. Some good info there.
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Trying to find the brand that works the best....didn't mean to get crossways. :campfire:
I like the Glory nocks as they turn off easily but I need to try the Fire nocks as I've heard good things. The singles I bought were Luminocs. Probably the least reliable brand I've tried.
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I like the Glory nocks as well at first glance, but have not read any definitive reviews on them. I like the fact the can be externally switched 'OFF' without pulling a nock...pretty important if I decide to use woodies.
The big thing for me would be whether or not they are reliable.
No pulling and no tool needed. Just slide up on string above or below serving, push back into string until it shuts of then push button and hold as you pull off string.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191111/2d871b1dffd35a2945889f5e42022a64.jpg)
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I have been testing BREADCRUMB nocks recently, and I will post a review on Trad Gang soon.
I am ordering some Glory Nocks to add to the tests.
Quote from: smokin joe on November 11, 2019, 10:24:02 AM
I have been testing BREADCRUMB nocks recently, and I will post a review on Trad Gang soon.
I am ordering some Glory Nocks to add to the tests.
:thumbsup: Looking forward to it!
Great thread guys! Thanks for trying to save other's some grief :clapper:!
Quote from: Skates 2 on November 11, 2019, 04:18:00 PM
Great thread guys! Thanks for trying to save other's some grief :clapper:!
Well, as Terry mentioned earlier, these things aren't exactly cheap. I'd be pretty steamed if I spent $30+ bucks and they didn't work, broke after one shot, or malfunctioned. A nock that won't shut off could ruin your hunt. Deer aren't stupid.
Correct...I've got up good bit of time and money invested trying to figure out what's best for me..... That why I feel good about recommending it.
I wont be using them all the time, nor on all the arrows in my Quiver. But could see 2 out of 5 in my Quiver at all times so I'll always have one for when the situation arrises.
Fire nocks come in 6 packs with 3 non lit and 3 lit so all is the same.
There's a couple of brands mentioned here I've never heard of.......but I'm about bummed out testing. Hopefully these fire nocks will be consistent and durable.
I am looking forward to Joe's findings.
Quote from: Terry Green on November 12, 2019, 07:31:41 AM
Fire nocks come in 6 packs with 3 non lit and 3 lit so all is the same.
Do the Fire Nocks require pulling them to shut them off?
The shut-off feature on Fire Nocks works like this: Hold the arrow about 8 inches above a hard surface with the nock down. Drop the arrow so the nock hits the hard surface. That impact turns the nock off. If it does not, hold it higher and try again until the nock turns off. In my experiments, the repeated dropping of the nock end on a hard surface to turn the arrow off starts to deform the plastic nocks. I have not had one deform to the point of being un-shootable yet.
I have been testing lighted nocks for the "Terry Green - and Smoking Joe Midnight Arrow Project" over the past several months. The "Midnight Arrow Project" is something Terry and I dreamed up for night hunting hogs. The objective is to develop an arrow with a reliable light-up nock and a reflective wrap somewhere on the arrow.
Luminocks: They are OK.
Nockturnal nocks: They are OK.
Firenocks: Excellent and a bit heavy, and you have to install them just right.
Breadcrumb nocks: High quality, very heavy, and very expensive. Interesting Bluetooth feature.
Glory Nocks: Excellent. These are my choice for the best balance of foolproof function, high quality, light weight, and friendly price.
After all of my tests there are some things I like about each of the nocks. But, I will trust my hunting to Glory Nocks with the green LED light.
I also designed a little 2-inch reflective wrap that goes on the shaft directly behind the broadhead.
The combination of reflective wrap on one end of the arrow and lighted nock on the other end looks like it will be a winner for night hunting of hogs.