This weekend I went to the TBOF Fall Rendezvous and had a great time. I didn't shoot particularly well but racked up in the raffle. Among the goodies I got was an old dozen arrows labeled what looks like "Herter's Farbenglas G". The interesting part is the point. Unfortunately, I can't do pics, so I will ask if this description sounds familiar to some of the old hands. The head looks like a very short stainless nib that tapers directly down to a fine point. There is essentially no cylindrical length that a regular shaped field point or BH could be glued to. Also, these tips seem to be glued in rather than screwed into the shaft. The entire point appears to be no longer than 1/2 inch long. Was there ever a target point that fits this description, or was there some kind of adapter used to attach a more "normal" head?
That sounds like the cheaper version of target points.
The more skilled target shooters would use what they call a bullet point. They are short too but radiused and polished.
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Kinda like this?
Sounds to me like this is the point style he is describing
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Hoosierarcher88, yes that is it. I guess it was not intended to easily swap out points. With the Farbenglas shafts, it seems that heat would be tricky when it comes to changing points. Thanks for the information.
Quote from: Sam McMichael on August 06, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Hoosierarcher88, yes that is it. I guess it was not intended to easily swap out points. With the Farbenglas shafts, it seems that heat would be tricky when it comes to changing points. Thanks for the information.
those are just simple glue in target nibs. Never really inteded to be swapped out. Ive seen many cheaper old arrows use the same points.usually they would come at a fixed length and point weight, one of those you get what you get kinda things
Probably epoxied in place. I wouldn't try and remove.
Mike
If you want to try and remove one I would do it in boiling water.
Open flame would be disastrous.
back in the day we usually had two sets of arrows. One for target and another for hunting points. You need to realize that many states (eastern) had little to no big game hunting during the time period these points came from. Target shooting was the thing to do. This also would have been pre screw in point days. Also note that any heat will not treat those shafts kindly.
I've still got a set that belonged to my Dad.
Interesting, I have several dozen light tan Herter's Farbenglass arrows at home - all from the 67 - 72 timeframe. My brother and dad shot those while I was shooting their aluminum arrows. All of the Farbenglass arrows were delivered cut to the desired length and had an insert installed in them. The insert was tapered and had ridges like a threaded bolt, I suppose to give the point glue something to hold onto. We would then use ferrule-tite cement to attach a field point or broadhead onto that insert. If what you have isn't exactly similar to what Hoosierarcher88 pictured, it could be that someone simply ground the insert down to a point. I can't imagine that would fly all that well though because the front end would be too light.
Stinger, my points are exactly as Hoosierarcher88's picture shows. Luckily, I have a bow that seems to like them just fine. I wouldn't mind having a set with broadheads, but I doubt there are any supplies of arrows this old being available. Oddly, I had not intended to get them, because I didn't know anything about Farbenglas. Nobody bought any raffle tickets at all for them, so they pulled a ticket from the previous raffle item, which happened to be one of mine. After shooting them, I think I may have lucked out.
Sam... it's possible you may be able to find components for your shafts by checking different aluminum adapters.
Sam, I won't make any promises but give me a few days to look and see if I have any of the inserts. I think I saw some a couple years ago. I just have to remember where in the garage. At the time, the Farbenglass arrows were pretty good. Consistently straight, held up well, fairly consistent spines in a batch of arrows. They didn't like rocks much, but were better than the Herter's aluminums I was shooting.
Info on spine for those arrows found here: (sorry, couldn't figure out how to post a link correctly)
http://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=119170.0