Anyone find that they get a better release woth higher poundage bows ? I'm shooting 42# but feel I don't get a smooth release all the time as I did shooting my50# + bows of the past
yup!
Strips the string from your much quicker....also, may mask release issues
Like Howard said you should shoot all the weight that you can confortably shoot, everything just works better.
I'm all over the place with anything under 65#. I feel like I can't hold still or let go of the string. Shooting my 72# it's clean and crisp.
Fred Anderson says that is one reason to have a bow in a lower weight like maybe 40# to develop a better release. Since dropping in weight, I find I can focus more on a good release.
Yes.
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Yep, I shoot bows over 50# better.
For me? No. In my case I found going from the mid 50s down I focused much more on my form and release. YMMV.
Yep I always did. 20# is it for me now and I do really notice any releases issues now.
As many of you have said, higher poundages mask release issues. Is this a point in favor of using higher poundages? I don't think so!
To be more specific, what is being masked is the ability to relax the string fingers rather than trying to consciously open them. Learn to relax your string fingers, and you'll have the same release no matter what poundage you're shooting
Yep, like many. The higher pull masks my cruddy release. The use of a low poundage off season bow is that it reveals the form deficiency I have found.
I mainly notice my shoulder pain more with more weight.
Absolutely!!
On the winter 600 round, my sweet spot is 40-45#. Much lighter than that and I have to put more focus into the release. Much heavier and fatigue can get me by the end. For 3d I move up a few pounds and help cover some release faults. For hunting, 50+# covered a lot of my deer-fever shot sins.
I'm finishing up a nice little double carbon bow that's only 33#@28" for ETAR. It takes attention to shoot it as well. Hoping to clean my release up with it and then move back up for hunting season this year.
OK, I'll be the bad guy here!! IF you feel your release is better at higher draw weights, your release technique sucks!! IF you can get a good release with a 20# bow, just imagine how much better you will be with higher weights. The higher weight, better release, is a "cop out" for poor technique.
Arne
Heavier weights get me into the draw better, they engage me better..... Light weight bows seem blase' to me.
One size does not fit all...and my release technique doesn't suck.
So ok...you are the bad guy :biglaugh:
My release technique does suck! :biglaugh:
Quote from: Terry Green on July 02, 2019, 03:12:47 PM
Heavier weights get me into the draw better, they engage me better..... Light weight bows seem blase' to me.
One size does not fit all...and my release technique doesn't suck.
So ok...you are the bad guy :biglaugh:
This. Too low of draw weight makes over engaging back muscles an issue.
Some who can only snap shoot at higher weight may have release issues but you can't lump everyone who is perfectly capable of shooting 50lb+ into that mold just because you may not be able to handle it.
I can draw and hold my bow for 15 seconds easily.
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Hmmm. I don't think the higher poundage masks anything. Sure, it pulls the string off the fingers faster, but make a bad release, and it won't fix it. There is some truth to the observations that lighter weight bows are more difficult for some to hold on target. When I shoot a light bow, I hold too long and have difficulty getting off the string, which ruins my accuracy. Yeah, it's a head thing, but it is what it is. On the other hand, shooting at one's maximum poundage can also cause other form problems, like collapsing, severe plucking in a subconscious effort to dump the string, etc.
Shooting a heavy for me bow requires my complete attention and focus. I'm much more conscious of engaging my back muscles and getting proper alignment and a tight anchor. Because of that, I usually shoot good (for a while). But, I no longer have the stamina I once had and tire fairly quickly. After 25-30 arrows or so with a heavy bow, my accuracy goes down pretty quickly.
Yup.
Yes, my release sucks - because I plucks! A heavy bow seems to reduce the effects of it, at least to a degree. Unfortunately, I can't pull particularly heavy bows any more. Therefore, Moebow, I read and practice a lot of the advice you give. Still have a long, long way to go.
Ah, the voice of reason chimes in....thank you Arne. I'll have to agree, I have to trash low poundage as the inconvenient truth that with poor form one is entirely capable of shooting just as crappy with 30# as with 50#, lol! Not that it doesn't have a place, so ya'll don't get all pissy.
Yeah... at higher weight, I agree that my follow through is much better! When I have been shooting my upper 50's bows and go to the the upper 40's bows I tend to pluck the string.. Basically for me the more tension I have on the string the better my back tension engages and therefore the better my release is (more tension = more of a surprise / further expansion). This may or may not be due to a form issue.?.?. In all, when it gets too easy on the draw I tend to release continuously vs subcounsiously and it throws my grouping off..
I only started shooting traditional a few months ago.
Release on my 35# bow with my glove was absolutely terrible. I felt like the string grabbed the glove and it wasn't consistent. Release with my bare fingers felt much better, and with a tab, was similar.
Release on my 65# bow felt better with the tab as well but could get away with the glove. My technique with this bow is/was terrible and it was a gift. I quickly took the 65# limbs off and put some lighter limbs on that I bought off a bloke on here.
Shot the 54# limbs with a tab for a while and felt my release was OK...ish, but overall I'm very new and my technique sucked. Was trying to focus more on the string not hitting my face so my release wasn't being worked on. Have since gone back to my glove which I originally hated and now feel like I shoot my bow far better, my release is better, and my technique is coming along nicely.
So yeh, I feel like the higher poundage bows definitely masked my poor form in some ways, but they were also bad for my form compared to my lighter bow in other ways.
Back when a college kid shot some videos of me shooting, in slow motion, the deep grooves on my well worn Hill glove put a big wobble in the strings of my lighter target bows. My Cantpinch tab did much better. however, my over 70 pound bows showed a much straighter and less wobbling string with either. That torquing string that goes wide first and then center does not happen much at all with heavy bows, the string just goes forward. any bending into the bow that the arrow does is more of a product of a bow being outside of center, simple physics. Barring shooting issues and injury, like my release finger ligaments wearing out from many years of shooting heavy bows, the heavy bow will allow a shooter more latitude.
With out a doubt, when I was younger it wasn't much of a issue, using my hands to make a living has come at a cost.
Does your coach ever kill anything??? or does he just eat salad? :campfire:
Hmmm..."Vegetarian". Old indian word for lousy hunter.
Yes... My release is "better" with a heavier...and shorter bow! I only draw a true 28" though. Maybe the so-called pinch aids or its placebo effect... I don't care. 45 lbs and up...recurves 56 inches or less. That's my experience. I have only been at it since 8 so maybe I could stand to learn something. 32 years being a novice here. I am no expert. I am a hunter. 😂
I find a heavier bow engages me more in the process because you do have to be more cognisant of your alignment,and i couldnt
draw my heavy bow without :backtension:If i dont release the string square to the riser,whether its canted or not one can hear a slapping
sound that notifies you that you plucked as the string slides into the string grooves.That sound is not present with a proper release.
What pavan said is true.