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Title: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 03, 2019, 02:14:05 PM
Do any of you cover your feathers? Both of my bows carry full quivers with mostly white feathered arrows. To me they stand out like a sore thumb for turkey and deer. So I've been using an old camo mask to cover them. I too the mask off and can't find it, but I had a camo hanky, so I tied that on. It covers well, but restricts getting a second arrow out of my quiver and putting the arrow back in. What do you use as a cover, if at all?
My next arrows will be anything but white.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: cacciatore on May 03, 2019, 03:32:37 PM
Nothing move than a full loaded bow quiver when you are in the wood, I am been busted more than a single time before I started to use a cover
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: OkKeith on May 03, 2019, 03:44:13 PM
Brian-

I have made several fletching covers from cheap fleece (on sale at Walmart, or the fabric store). You don't need much. Its basically a draw string pouch without the bottom stitched in and long/wide enough to slip over the feathers. I leave the bottom unsewn so it won't collect crap in it while I am in the woods. I use really thin elastic string or bungee (1/8" I think) for the draw top. I make the strings long enough for a slight stretch fit up to the base of the quiver. A simple loop tied on each end slips over the ends of the arrow gripper to secure it. I think I have a couple that I used slide locks on.

Just be sure you get two sided fleece and not the stuff that is white on the back side. I use my wife's sewing machine but hand stitching or even fabric glue would work.

OkKeith

Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Orion on May 03, 2019, 03:54:58 PM
A cheap see through camo headnet works well. Run a thin piece of shock cord from the base of the headset to the lower arrow gripper to hole it on. The material is the same kind used for blind windows. Could also make your own with that material.  Nice thing about it is the wind blows through it so it's easier to hold on target in a wind, should that situation ever arise.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Wudstix on May 03, 2019, 05:01:39 PM
Shoot mostly bright orange and orange barred 5" 3-fletch.  Turkey could be a problem, but I don't get to hunt turkey much.  Hogs don't mind and it helps add to the orange I am required to wear on public land hunting hogs.  Deer don't seem to mind either.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: M60gunner on May 03, 2019, 08:06:28 PM
I bought some water resistant camo cloth at the yardgoods store. Wife made a bag that goes over the fletch. I keep it on with stretch cord. It's big enough that I used to keep it my back quiver or side quiver if I got caught in rain at range as well.
Another bag I have I bought at surplus store. It in made to fit in the side pouches of the Alice pack. It has a rubber lining and is flat green.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 03, 2019, 08:16:31 PM
Thanks guys. Pretty much nothing more than I'm doing now. I have to find that cheap camo head net I was using. It worked better than the hanky.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: PeteA on May 04, 2019, 08:38:27 AM
 I use a camo fleece fletching cover for my Delta type bow quiver. One thing to add to the above posts, I take a piece of plastic weed wacker cord say 16" long. I insert it into the channel that holds the elastic. I use heat srink tubing to hold the ends together and get it to form a ovalish hoop. It holds the the top end of the cover open to make inserting or getting arrows out a little easier.

Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: BAK on May 04, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
Exactly the same as M60Gunner, except I did the sewing.  Works perfect  Keeps them hidden and dry.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: dnovo on May 04, 2019, 02:49:34 PM
That's why I splice my feathers. Small section of white at the tail end combined with barred feathers gives me the visibility of the white going away but doesn't
give me away on stand
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 05, 2019, 08:11:33 PM
Been using fletch covers for years...they are all not the same.

Bob Morrison use to make great ones....then when he quit I sent one to Safari Tuff....not sure if they are making anymore.

9 inches of material and open at the bottom with a wire to hold it open.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Bowguy67 on May 05, 2019, 09:02:26 PM
I use a hip quiver n not once have I been busted. I did at one time use a bow quiver and I'd prob never use white.
I'd splice feathers and use chartreuse (my eyes see that better than white) on the back section. I could clearly see the arrow flight yet the "color" was less. Truth is w the hip quiver I may use mostly chartreuse, perhaps w a blue stripe or blue inner section and I still never get busted.
Why not buy some like I suggested and run a couple white and a couple the others until you run out of all white.
If they aren't wood or even if they are (slightly tougher) but change the feather color is another option
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: David McLendon on May 05, 2019, 11:01:54 PM
I shoot florescent Yellow and Green fletching, I made a fletch cover out of Opti-Fade Sub Alpine to match the bow from a torn pair of pants and fleece lined it, with a length of 1/8" shock cord to secure it to the quiver.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 06, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
Yeah Dave....I use the brightest fletching I can get for numerous, all positive, reasons....
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 07, 2019, 02:01:18 PM
Quote from: Terry Green on May 05, 2019, 08:11:33 PM
Been using fletch covers for years...they are all not the same.

Bob Morrison use to make great ones....then when he quit I sent one to Safari Tuff....not sure if they are making anymore.

9 inches of material and open at the bottom with a wire to hold it open.

Yup, Rod had the best ones. A bendable wire sewn into the top and heavy weedwacker line sewn into the bottom to keep it open. And Terry is correct, he's not making that style anymore. I bought the last two he had around 2010....[attachment=1,msg2867006]
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 07, 2019, 02:09:31 PM
Another pic.....[attachment=1]
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: fisherick on May 07, 2019, 07:19:21 PM
I use four fletch on a white wrap with Flo yellow and Flo orange. Several years ago a buddy's wife made us a fleece camo arrow cover. Quite, keeps rain off, and hides arrows well.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: fujimo on May 08, 2019, 10:57:26 AM
i know this is about bow quivers- but i moved away from them, and the reasons above being one of my main concerns- i now use a cat quiver- and for me- its the best system.
for all the bow quiver guys n'gals out there- i do empathize with your situation.
that cover that was made by Rod, looks like the ticket though!
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Pat B on May 08, 2019, 01:48:13 PM
I have a fleece bag like above for fletch cover when needed. When not needed it is fastened to the frame of my GFA style quiver with an extra string for the bow I'm using.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 08, 2019, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: Yellow Dog on May 07, 2019, 02:09:31 PM
Another pic.....[attachment=1,msg2867011]

I like that. I think I can make something like it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 08, 2019, 08:00:54 PM
Quote from: TooManyHobbies on May 08, 2019, 07:31:29 PM
Quote from: Yellow Dog on May 07, 2019, 02:09:31 PM
Another pic.....[attachment=1,msg2867011]

I like that. I think I can make something like it. Thanks.

Yeah....I have at least 3 of these!!!!
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 09, 2019, 11:52:22 AM
Brian, send me your email address and I can send you a bunch of detailed pics along with measurements if you'd like.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 10, 2019, 08:36:40 PM
Yellowdog, you have mail. Thank you.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Friend on May 11, 2019, 04:24:47 AM
Has been 100% Safari Tuff for me since 2014 as I have no desire to change.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: flyonline on May 18, 2019, 07:00:26 PM
I know I'm just a dumb aussie, but I don't see how those hold on without moving up/down. Do you cinch the drawstring tight enough around the shafts to stop it and are there any problems with squashing the feathers down if so?
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Pat B on May 18, 2019, 07:56:19 PM
Mine has a thin bungee type cord that attaches to the quiver. I use a side stalker style or a GFA style side quiver.
I've not had a problem with it crushing the feathers but I use it very little, only when needed during foul weather.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: flyonline on May 18, 2019, 08:02:55 PM
Pat

it was more the nock end I was thinking of i.e. at the bottom. My bow ends up in all kind of weird positions on stalks and while walking through thick brush so it would need to be something pretty secure.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Pat B on May 18, 2019, 10:24:00 PM
I don't use a bow quiver. With the side quivers I just slide the quiver behind me when moving through tight places.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 19, 2019, 05:42:45 AM
Quote from: Pat B on May 18, 2019, 10:24:00 PM
I don't use a bow quiver. With the side quivers I just slide the quiver behind me when moving through tight places.

I was talking more about visibility of bright feathers, not maneuverability or protection of the arrows/feathers.
The first time I noticed that feathers/vanes should be covered or dark colors was 20something years ago while hunting with a friend. We went separate ways still hunting and when we came around to each other again, all I saw was a cluster of white that was out of place. I slowly pulled an arrow, placed it on the string and waited for a clear shot. The white spot moved here and there, but I couldn't tell what it was. At the time thinking the white of some part of the deer. My buddy was in total camo, which worked great I guess. lol. Finally I saw him slowly waving at me. But that white of his feathers kept me mesmerized. I figure deer will see it as another deer too, but turkeys see it and know somethings wrong, and gone.

Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 19, 2019, 09:57:39 AM
flyonline,....If you are talking about the fletch cover on the bow quiver....no, they don't slide up and down easy, or at all stalking....

And no, they don't mash your feathers unless you leave them covered for long periods of time.

When I put my bow back in my truck, or get back to camp, I put bottom limb up and pull down the cover.

Don't need to worry about stalking, sounds like  you stalk this stuff like I do, and the bow quiver and fletch combo has been my choice for arrow transport for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: flyonline on May 20, 2019, 05:45:02 AM
Thanks Terry, if it's good enough for you it's certainly good enough for me  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 20, 2019, 08:34:30 AM
I've received several requests for details on the fletching cover I posted so I thought I'd just share with you guys by posting.

The bottom has heavy weed whacker line sewn in to keep it open and prevent crunching your feathers.....

[attachment=3,msg2868631]

Turned inside out.....

[attachment=4,msg2868631]


The top has a bendable wire sewn in, similar to craft wire that florists use. You can bend to an oval shape. Makes it easier to remove an arrow when needed.

[attachment=2,msg2868631]


Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 20, 2019, 08:41:46 AM
Pics of OAL. I use reflective wraps and it covers them just fine

[attachment=2,msg2868633]

[attachment=3,msg2868633]
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 20, 2019, 08:52:49 AM
I use nothing but Great Northern quivers and the dimensions here work very well. With a quiver that fans out your arrows on the nock end, you'd want to go with a larger diameter bottom opening.....

The last pic was taken with the flash to light the wrap up. Without the flash.....

[attachment=1,msg2868634]
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: TooManyHobbies on May 20, 2019, 02:08:56 PM
Thanks Yellow Dog. I'll try to turn my camo hanky into that.
Actually, maybe not, your material looks stiffer. I'll find something.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: forster on May 20, 2019, 02:20:47 PM
Thanks Yellow Dog!  Think I'll give it a try>
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Sockrsblur on May 20, 2019, 02:29:25 PM
Thank you Yellow Dog!  :campfire:
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Yellow Dog on May 20, 2019, 03:46:24 PM
It appears to be a type of waterproof saddle cloth. The same stuff his Safari Tuff quivers are built with. Like a waterproof short nap fleece.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 20, 2019, 06:42:59 PM
Thanks Yellowdog....

Yeah...ll...the material is like buck suede.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Biathlonman on May 20, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
I still feel like there may be a better system.  I've got an idea I want to mock up and run by you all, hopefully tomorrow.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 21, 2019, 07:02:35 AM
Here's what you do when you forget your fletch cover....about half of my make-shift fell out dragging this hog out....

[attachment=1]
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Charlie Lamb on May 21, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
[attachment=1]

adapt and overcome. :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: David McLendon on May 23, 2019, 08:44:25 PM
This is the one I'm using now, I made it from material from a torn pair of Sitka Optifade Sub Alpine pants. It's lined with some lightweight black fleece and has black 1/8" shock cord for fastening it to the quiver. I just run the cord through the holes in the rubber arrow gripper. Never throw away torn camo, you can always find a use for the material.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 24, 2019, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: Biathlonman on May 20, 2019, 09:11:44 PM
I still feel like there may be a better system.  I've got an idea I want to mock up and run by you all, hopefully tomorrow.

I'm waiting.....

Also, the bottom being open is best for sure.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Biathlonman on May 24, 2019, 08:12:04 AM
[attachment=2,msg2869167][attachment=1,msg2869167]

Basically I created this frame with kydex then have attached camo fleece to it with double sided carpet tape.  Still having a lot of trouble resizing pictures but working on it.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 24, 2019, 08:52:36 AM
Quote from: Charlie Lamb on May 21, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
[attachment=1,msg2868872]

adapt and overcome. :thumbsup:

:goldtooth: :goldtooth: :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: blacktailbob on May 24, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
Based on a couple of those photos it looks a lot easier/simpler to just hang some brush on your bow.
Plus you don't have to worry about forgetting it.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 24, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
Quote from: blacktailbob on May 24, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
Based on a couple of those photos it looks a lot easier/simpler to just hang some brush on your bow.
Plus you don't have to worry about forgetting it.

Yeah....but Mr Bob...some of us don't have greenery year round like you do!!!  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: blacktailbob on May 24, 2019, 04:02:56 PM
AND year round skeeters.
Title: Re: Covering Feathers?
Post by: Terry Green on May 24, 2019, 06:20:13 PM
Yeah...but you also got year round bikinis!!!