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Title: Longer draws
Post by: Bowguy67 on April 09, 2019, 09:54:09 PM
Fellows, I don't have this issue but my buddy is tall wing draw. He shoots 31" w a compound. He's looking to get a styk but I really can't say which bows to look at for that long draw.
Either factory or custom it doesn't matter if he can pick one up second hand reasonably.
I just don't wish to give him bad information. Guys w long draws if you can speak up please
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Hermon on April 09, 2019, 09:57:47 PM
A 27" ilf riser with long or extra long limbs?
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: PistolPete on April 09, 2019, 10:20:45 PM
I draw 32" and feel his pain. I'm having a custom bow made, but am currently shooting a Rich Emery Stik, 64", 50@32 and it does great. With my new bow coming very soon, I might even be talked out of it for a cheap price.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: acedoc on April 10, 2019, 12:54:42 AM
Bowyers who cater for long draws are Jim neaves of centaur archery and Toelke bows (Dan). I would stay clear of ilf ...
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Cwilder on April 10, 2019, 01:49:35 AM
3 rivers has a 21" riser on sale for 324.99 add that with long limbs for a 66" bow and it would make a great all around rig for him
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Bowguy67 on April 10, 2019, 03:30:14 AM
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Alexander Traditional on April 10, 2019, 05:38:43 AM
I wonder if his draw may shorten some with a stick bow?  He might not need as long as he used to? If he could draw one of yours and you could measure.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Orion on April 10, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
His draw likely will shorten by an inch or more switching to a traditional bow.  Regardless, just want to stay with a longer bow -- 62-64 inches or longer in a recurve, probably 64 inches or so in a hybrid and 70 inches in an ASL.  Nothing at all wrong with an ILF set up, and pretty easy to work up a 66-70-inch recurve using ILF components.

Of course, he can go with a shorter bow (some folks with long draw lengths do) but finger pinch and stack will be greater. 

Also a good idea to not go too heavy to start.  I'd recommend something in the 40-45# range at his draw length.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Bowguy67 on April 10, 2019, 10:14:40 AM
Quote from: Orion on April 10, 2019, 09:33:08 AM
His draw likely will shorten by an inch or more switching to a traditional bow.  Regardless, just want to stay with a longer bow -- 62-64 inches or longer in a recurve, probably 64 inches or so in a hybrid and 70 inches in an ASL.  Nothing at all wrong with an ILF set up, and pretty easy to work up a 66-70-inch recurve using ILF components.

Of course, he can go with a shorter bow (some folks with long draw lengths do) but finger pinch and stack will be greater. 

Also a good idea to not go too heavy to start.  I'd recommend something in the 40-45# range at his draw length.

Got all the stacking stuff and finger pinch relayed to him already. He understands. I'm gonna pass on the ilf thing to him. That I'll be honest is not my thing so I know nothing about it
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: stagetek on April 10, 2019, 10:38:17 AM
I draw 30.5 and shoot bows from 60-64". No problem. Your friend will likely shorten his draw by at least an inch making the switch.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: David Mitchell on April 10, 2019, 10:49:42 AM
I draw 30.5 and my 60" Galaxy Ember longbow works just fine.  I have customs that don't perform any better and actually the Galaxy grip is the best I ever had.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Archie on April 10, 2019, 06:55:21 PM
A 66" Black Widow longbow would work fine.  I draw 31" with mine, my brother draws 32.5" with his.  We both shoot 64" BW PMA recurves too, at those draw lengths, for many years.  He also has a 66" Toelke Lynx takedown that a draws nice and smooth beyond my draw.  I shot a 64" Cari-bow Silver Fox 3 piece that was smooth past my draw as well.  I'm sure there are a lot of others out there.
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: ron w on April 10, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
Many moons ago, when I shot a compound I did it with fingers and a 30+ draw. Going to back basics with a stick bow after getting my form down I draw just over 29" . A 19" or 21" ILF riser with a set of long limbs and your friend will be good to go. There is a plus there......get lighter limbs to start and work on form.......then go heavier if need be. Just my opinion......... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Pointer on April 10, 2019, 08:25:13 PM
I draw 30+ and 64" works ok for me. There are plenty of inexpensive options available
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: John Cholin on April 11, 2019, 10:32:16 AM
I guess I am a little "slow".  At 6'1" I've been described as a "long-legged wide-receiver type" yet I've been shooting short bows for decades.  The Bear Magnum 48 was the shortest.  I'm shooting 56" bows with 31" arrows and I have no issues.  Right now I am shooting a Fox Archery High Sierra 64# at 30" and a Bear Kodiak Takedown 60# at 28".  I can hit what I shoot at out to 25 yards confidently.  I don't understand why everyone recommends such long bows.  Short bows are a whole lot handier if you are hunting from a tree-stand or brush blind, in my opinion.  Like I said, I guess I am a little slow.

Best Regards,

JMC
Title: Re: Longer draws
Post by: Ken Taylor on April 11, 2019, 04:11:37 PM
A very long time ago I tried a compound for a bit - I shot a simple 48" almost round wheel compound with fingers.
I have arms like an ape so with a high wrist grip and a mostly sideways stance my draw length was more than 33".

Going back to a recurve with a more open stance and a slightly lower wrist grip it was 31" and than going back to my longbows with a completely low wrist grip and a thinner riser/handle, my draw length was a maximum of 30", and even slightly less today depending on the longbow model.

I realize though that not everyone will have such an extreme difference, since:
1) the shorter your draw length, the less the difference will be
2) you may have less of a difference in your shooting style with those different types of bows than I did/do
3) decades have passed since I've shot anything but longbows and it's been my experience that our draw length shortens through the years