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Title: Custom d bows
Post by: mark Willoughby on March 09, 2019, 11:43:56 AM
Looking for suggestions on custom d bows and pictures would be great
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: KodaChuck on March 09, 2019, 11:58:02 AM
Added a Fox Triple Crown to the inventory recently. I like it. Also have a Great Plains. Both nice bows. The Fox is custom and to do them justice, visit Ron's website.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: David Mitchell on March 09, 2019, 01:43:35 PM
Well, not sure what you mean by "D bow". I doubt you are referring to the hybrid style that are a cross between a recurve and longbow. Could you elaborate a bit more?  Do you mean the Hill style ASL bow?  That's what D bow means to me--one that looks like a D when strung.  If so my suggestion would lean heavily to Howard Hill Archery or Northern Mist longbows.  Howard Hill will get one to you in around 3-4 weeks normally. 
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Orion on March 09, 2019, 02:28:18 PM
If you're talking ASLs, J.D. Berry also makes some very nice bows.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rough Run on March 09, 2019, 02:33:02 PM
7 Lakes Archery and Kimsha Archery , also, for D-style bows.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Gator1 on March 09, 2019, 02:47:45 PM
Treadway back to basics very nice bow b
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: ron w on March 09, 2019, 02:59:36 PM
What Gator 1 said, Mikes Back to Basics bow is a shooter, mine is 66" and 43#@ 28" ,I draw it to 29" great in the hand and real easy on the eyes.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: STICKBENDER98 on March 09, 2019, 03:52:51 PM
Check out the Northern Mist website plenty of great bows there, and Steve is a top notch guy to deal with.

Jason
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: 1/4 away on March 09, 2019, 05:18:18 PM
X2 Northern Mist  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: mahantango on March 09, 2019, 05:31:23 PM
For me, Northern Mist was the best I ever shot.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Steelhead on March 10, 2019, 03:12:45 AM
I think your looking for more of the Classic longbow look with a lightweight streamlined riser and narrow deep cored limbs and not a stealth D shaped bow which typically has a larger riser and more radical limbs but still strings into a D shape to be legal mostly in longbow class that require a D shape.Those are great bows and thiers nothing wrong with them.Just a different animal.

I think you would be looking at Mild reflex/deflex bows,straight limbed bows,bows with backset or reflexed limbs and string follow limbs.Most have inline risers but some have reverse handles.All come with that classic longbow riser that's light and steamlined with deep core narrow limbs.Alot are cut 1/8th out from center to maintain riser strength but can be cut to center on lighter weight bows if you like a center cut shelf.Some even have double shelfs for the ambidexterous shooter and those do look cool.Grips vary quite a bit even on what seems like a mundane straighter type grip.Thier are nuances to those straighter style grips in size and shape..Some can be had with locator or lower pistol type grips.

Fact is their are many great bowyers who build these style of bows.So their are lots of choices and folks have different favorites or many favorites.I have many that shoot great.

Their was thread that was running recently titled D shape bows or Hill style bows.Not sure what the title was exactly.But their were hundreds of responses and many pics of these type bows.That would be a thread that would interest you I am sure and be a good read.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: bucknut on March 10, 2019, 08:35:39 AM
Dave Miller makes an excellent bow that should be added to the list. Nate Steen of Sunset Hill if you can stand the wait. J.D.Berry, Northern Mist and HHA are probably your fastest option and a great bow.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: JR Belk on March 10, 2019, 08:53:48 AM
You won't find anything better than a Northern Mist
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 10, 2019, 04:13:28 PM
AFLs, by their heritage, will brace at a "D" shape no matter whether the limbs are string follow, dead straight, or with backset.

however, mild R/D hybrid longbows will brace at a classic "D" and show some small amount of limb flip (not backset) when unbraced. 

once again, an ASL doesn't properly identify an American Flat Longbow from an ELB.  the distinction is in the limb cross section, whereas an AFL is FLAT on both its back and belly, and an ELB is is a combination of a flat back and rounded belly.  howard hill made AFLs and he was careful to note they were always flat in limb cross section.  but, what's in name or acronym anyway ....
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: mahantango on March 10, 2019, 10:23:09 PM
I should amend that. The Northern Mist Classic was the best " Hill style" longbow I ever shot. The Mahantango Kestrel mild d/r by Jim Martin is what I have owned and shot for 12 years. Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 10:32:58 AM
If you are looking for something in the Mild R/D realm that strings up D I would strongly consider the Robertson Primal Styk. I have one that I am really liking! It really shoots with authority and speed that competes with my recurves. Dick also makes it in the overdrive model that has a little more reflex unstrung, but still strings up in the classic D shape and will have even greater performance.

Mine is my current heavy weight and 64" 63@27". I would really like to get and overdrive in lower weight and 62" as well.

here is mine
(https://i.imgur.com/S2ohrbQ.jpg)


Here it is next to my TallTines Tundra which is tops in the 3pc D shaped bow platform.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wkko5CP.jpg)
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: hvyhitter on March 11, 2019, 01:10:10 PM
Leon Stewart makes a really nice R/D that braces into a D. Mine is over 20yrs old and still shoots with the best of them. Leon really make a beautiful bow and stands behind his work................For a Hill style bow I have a Hill Halfbreed.... Cant go wrong with a Hill......
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 10:32:58 AM

Here it is next to my TallTines Tundra which is tops in the 3pc D shaped bow platform.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wkko5CP.jpg)

the TTT looks like a high brace height.  what the BH on both those longbows?
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 10:32:58 AM

Here it is next to my TallTines Tundra which is tops in the 3pc D shaped bow platform.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wkko5CP.jpg)

the TTT looks like a high brace height.  what the BH on both those longbows?

The 64" Robertson I run around 6-7/8" and the  62" TT Tundra I typically run at 7 or just over. It does appear a bit higher in that picture then it really is I think.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 10:32:58 AM

Here it is next to my TallTines Tundra which is tops in the 3pc D shaped bow platform.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wkko5CP.jpg)

the TTT looks like a high brace height.  what the BH on both those longbows?

The 64" Robertson I run around 6-7/8" and the  62" TT Tundra I typically run at 7 or just over. It does appear a bit higher in that picture then it really is I think.

thanx.  i run my 64" hybrid "D" bows at 6-1/4" tops.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:37:21 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 07:33:09 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 10:32:58 AM

Here it is next to my TallTines Tundra which is tops in the 3pc D shaped bow platform.

(https://i.imgur.com/Wkko5CP.jpg)

the TTT looks like a high brace height.  what the BH on both those longbows?

The 64" Robertson I run around 6-7/8" and the  62" TT Tundra I typically run at 7 or just over. It does appear a bit higher in that picture then it really is I think.

thanx.  i run my 64" hybrid "D" bows at 6-1/4" tops.

Interesting, why so low? for Performance? I am not nearly as experienced in the mild DR bows as you as up until the last couple of years I grew up a recurve or hybrid shooter, and have honestly always just gone off of the bowyers recommended brace +/- a 1/2" or so.  I would love to hear more about this. Thanks Rob!
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 11, 2019, 08:34:38 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:18:13 PM
Interesting, why so low? for Performance? I am not nearly as experienced in the mild DR bows as you as up until the last couple of years I grew up a recurve or hybrid shooter, and have honestly always just gone off of the bowyers recommended brace +/- a 1/2" or so.  I would love to hear more about this. Thanks Rob!

personal preference.  they just "shoot better" for me. 

drop the brace height of the 1pc to a tad under 6-1/4" and see if there's a difference that feels better.  won't know 'til you try.  :dunno:  :wavey:  :campfire:

Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
I'll try it! thanks Rob!
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: frassettor on March 12, 2019, 04:16:42 AM
Northern Mist is a wonderful choice, IMO
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 12, 2019, 06:05:07 AM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
I'll try it! thanks Rob!

worth doing.  twist down or up, too.  some bows want a specific brace height range that's narrow, others afford a wider latitude.  it's a compromise of smoothness and speed, stability and comfort.  setting a brace height high will sure work the limbs more, for a greater power stroke, but there can be a cost for that in stacking and loss of overall shooting stability.  this "stability" thing, for me, is a greater "forgiveness" of the bow, less critical of the release, and more consistent accuracy.  lots will also have to do with the bow design and the draw length used.  bows will always be compromises of sorts.  lemme know how ya make out. 

:campfire:
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Bill Turner on March 12, 2019, 06:45:12 AM
I have always been happy with my Howard Hill Archery bows. Craig has been building custom bows for years. Give him a shout.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 12, 2019, 06:54:04 AM
there are a *LOT* of great hill-style bows out there, for sure.  i've sampled more'n a few, and that's definitely for sure!  i'd still come back to the real deal craig built hill, almost always a nice tembo, too.  it's all good as long as we have good interest in this cool stuff and life is still good.  :) 
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: jsweka on March 13, 2019, 06:11:50 PM
If we want to get down into strict definitions, a "D" bow is one with a "D" shaped cross section to the limbs.  Flat on the back of the bow and rounded on the belly (e.g., an English longbow).  There aren't too many custom makers of this type.

It's only been fairly recently that the term "D" bow has applied to a bow whose shape when strung resembles the letter "D" which would include a flatbow, American Semi Longbow (ASL), "Hill Style" bow, or some mild r/d bows.  There's lots of custom makers of this type.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: TradBrewSC on March 13, 2019, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 12, 2019, 06:05:07 AM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
I'll try it! thanks Rob!

worth doing.  twist down or up, too.  some bows want a specific brace height range that's narrow, others afford a wider latitude.  it's a compromise of smoothness and speed, stability and comfort.  setting a brace height high will sure work the limbs more, for a greater power stroke, but there can be a cost for that in stacking and loss of overall shooting stability.  this "stability" thing, for me, is a greater "forgiveness" of the bow, less critical of the release, and more consistent accuracy.  lots will also have to do with the bow design and the draw length used.  bows will always be compromises of sorts.  lemme know how ya make out. 

:campfire:

I haven't tried the Robertson, but did drop the TT Tundra down to about 6.5"  or a little less and from the 10-12 shots I took was pleasantly surprised! Thanks Rob.
Title: Re: Custom d bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 13, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 13, 2019, 08:00:24 PM
Quote from: Rob DiStefano on March 12, 2019, 06:05:07 AM
Quote from: TradBrewSC on March 11, 2019, 08:39:44 PM
I'll try it! thanks Rob!

worth doing.  twist down or up, too.  some bows want a specific brace height range that's narrow, others afford a wider latitude.  it's a compromise of smoothness and speed, stability and comfort.  setting a brace height high will sure work the limbs more, for a greater power stroke, but there can be a cost for that in stacking and loss of overall shooting stability.  this "stability" thing, for me, is a greater "forgiveness" of the bow, less critical of the release, and more consistent accuracy.  lots will also have to do with the bow design and the draw length used.  bows will always be compromises of sorts.  lemme know how ya make out. 

:campfire:

I haven't tried the Robertson, but did drop the TT Tundra down to about 6.5"  or a little less and from the 10-12 shots I took was pleasantly surprised! Thanks Rob.

:thumbsup:  :campfire: