I've been out 3 times so far with Ghillie using a rabbit screamer and what sounds like a fawn in distress call (two calls I had laying around maybe 20yrs old) I learned to blow about 5 times with the last sound fading out slowly so I think I'm doing that right and I'd say I'm blowing that 5 call progression every 10-15 minutes in one spot for about an hour then moving.. I'm using one of those electronic tails that swings around every couple seconds to get the coyote to focus on and of course my recurve or some other stickbow which is why I'm asking this in TG..
what is the trick trying to calling these dogs in using a mouth call,,,,, I remember years ago watching Dan Bertalan do it on the video hunt instinctively better than ever and he was using call that sounded like my rabbit distress call but he was just standing in a blow down with no tail distractor for the coyotes to come in on and the dogs just come running in :biglaugh: ha ha boy that looked easy, Not!
I'm setting up where I know these things are and nobody really specifically hunts them here,,, I'm in pheasant stocking areas which has ended so I know they must be hungry and when it snows you see nothing but coyote tracks on all the deer runs, I'm in the Ghillie motionless and the wind is right.
I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible, let me know your trick or what should work enough to at least see them interested.. thanks for any advice, T
I use a cotton tail rabbit scream call to start, but....
Once you think a coyote is close, switch to a "kiss call" -- that is a very light kiss squeak with just your lips. Be subtle, rather than loud, once the coyote is within 50 to 100 yards.
I recently ran an experiment with different noises on rabbits after dark. The noise that made them run for their lives was the quiet kiss-call. They recognize it and react immediately. I have used it to call in coyotes within bow range. They seem to recognize it too.
Good luck. Coyotes are a big challenge.
I have never killed a coyote with my bow I have killed a bunch with my rifle and 95% where killed with a cottontail in distresses.
Coyotes are far smarter than most give credit. I believe the majority of guys who do not think their setup is working, actually call in dogs they don't see but the coyotes pinpoint hunter while staying hidden, then depart.
Eastern coyote is more difficult than Western where you can see quite a ways
Depending on where you live, consider your hunting a mature whitetail deer with it's eyes, hearing and smell combined with a turkey's vision and lack of curiosity then times by 100. Now you are hunting a Eastern coyote. My best advice is hunt in pairs. Back to back with the guy watching down wind being able to look for a long distance and maybe you'll stand a chance for Eastern yotes.
I've shot them while in the deer stand maybe they are coming over after hearing a light grunt here and there and just kinda snooping around,,, so I'm taking it by the posts they are pretty hard to get into bow range. how about this should I be setting up in thick areas or more open areas,, or say the tail whip it thing I have is it cool to keep using that and if so should I maybe set up at the edge of a field and have that whipping around out in the field?
I'm kinda doing what I do for deer and that's get into the thick stuff where I doubt anything can identify me more than 30yds away especially with a Ghillie and not moving ,, BUT I'm wondering now is that not a good idea because they can't see where the calling is coming from....
Again if from the east it's different from the west. Imagine a deer getting a solid sniff of humans from 100 yards away. Now for a yote imagine the same reaction form 400 yards away. Forget about watching those coyote hunting videos from out west unless your from there. The eastern yote is a totally different beast.
well I'm going figure them out and kill one because where everyone thinks it so hard I'm putting my mind to it,, season ends 3/8 then after that I'll be back and you guys can read about my failure :archer:..
I've only taken them with guns, but I always setup with a barrier down wind of me. I mean on the riverbank, or up next to a big field. They will try and get down wind every time. I try to make my sets were they can't or if they do I can see them first.
Ive killed a bunch of them. Set up is everything--- you need to be sure that there is no brush, no low spot, no cover that the coyote can approach downwind of you. If there is you'll never see him, but will educate him and most coyotes don't make the same mistake twice. I have one go to call that works year round and its not the rabbit squeal. My best luck has obviously been early morning and evening but ive called them in in the middle of the day too.
I saw this one in the field hunting mice. I was in a pine tree hunting deer. I called him in by kissing the back of my hand. Shot him through the hind quarters. It turned into a long tracking job the next day but I finely got another arrow into him.
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One year I bought a Super Kodiak from Charlie Bledsoe and told him I was going to shoot a big one with it. i did 35 yards on the move, the arrow went up into tree branches beyond the hit, the deer went down before the arrow fell to the ground, them Deltas is deadly. When dragging the deer out we met a coyote in the middle of an alfalfa field about 30 yards, he stood his ground and went straight into the wind at the gut pile. the next deer i shot, I climbed a tree after i moved the gutted deer out of sight. I had seen a coyote earlier. Three coyotes came in fast and started snarling and fighting with each other. I shot and missed, I shot again and missed again. Fighting coyotes are hard to hit from a tree branch.
They will always come in downwind to calls. There's no such thing as a good wind. Watch downwind. With a decoy and plenty of fox urine a lot of times that will be enough, but get ready for a hard shot to make. They don't give you much opportunity and they figure out something's up pretty fast.
Quote from: Ron LaClair on February 19, 2019, 12:13:36 AM
I saw this one in the field hunting mice. I was in a pine tree hunting deer. I called him in by kissing the back of my hand. Shot him through the hind quarters. It turned into a long tracking job the next day but I finely got another arrow into him.
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What bow is that, Ron?
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What bow is that, Ron?
It's a Great Northern Bush bow, 75#
Quote from: LC on February 18, 2019, 04:53:41 PM
Depending on where you live, consider your hunting a mature whitetail deer with it's eyes, hearing and smell combined with a turkey's vision and lack of curiosity then times by 100. Now you are hunting a Eastern coyote. My best advice is hunt in pairs. Back to back with the guy watching down wind being able to look for a long distance and maybe you'll stand a chance for Eastern yotes.
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My one yote was in Indiana circa 1983 and he was tracking a rabbit under my tree stand. He zigged when he should have zagged and my arrow met him at @18 yards.
have killed three yotes while deer hunting & missed two, so I've got a good average so far, all with recurves.
Tried to draw on one out of a tree stand. He caught me drawing and was gone before l got to full draw. Good luck, Don
I dump crappie fish heads and guts on one side of a creek, the other side I have a tree stand. I hunt it once or twice a week when the wind is blowing from fish scraps to me, I shoot over the water making it impossible for them to wind me. Sack them suckers up! Mucho Bueno
Coyotes are dogs. They are not that smart. They start coming in to a screaming rabbit, and u switch to pups in distress, they dont stop and think, "Wait a minute. Somethings not right." They just keep coming. They are wary. No doubt. And they are the only animal that can make 3 sounds at the same time. So....2 yotes can sound like a large pack.
I think you need to modify your thinking. This goes for all hunting. It's not actually what's best for anyone else it's what will work for you.
For starters it's gonna depend on "rut phase". Most places it's around now. If they're in it you might do better w another coyote type call, say they key in on turkey, name one turkey hunter that hasn't called in coyotes? Are they eating deer, house cats, stocked pheasant, etc? Any of those things could do better than the same exact dying rabbit everyone else is using. (Not saying it won't work either)
Sometimes I'm pretty sure the only outdoorsman that think outside the box to succeed are trappers. Each one of them have a story about outwitting a smart fox, coyote, etc. Think like that, what is gonna help you.
I think I've shot 8/9 with a bow, by far the best luck I've had is with E-callers. Out here in open country, I put the E-caller in a brush pocket that's large enough for them to have to walk up to it.
In the timber it basically the same, hide the caller in something big enough for them to not "expect" to see the critter killing the rabbit/bird.
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I got this guy trying to pounce on 2 fawns in 2017, the buck came in about 15-20 minutes later to some rattling.