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Title: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: Elkstabber on January 09, 2019, 06:29:24 PM
Here is a cheaper and maybe better option to get a durable shaft with high foc. It was written by pistolpete.  My personal experience with Grizzlystik shafts a while ago was that they lacked consistency in spine and didn't shoot consistently. This may be a great solution.

Has anybody else done anything like this?

http://elkprep.blogspot.com/2019/01/diy-grizzly-stick-arrow-shafts-durable.html?m=1
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: sneakybow on January 09, 2019, 08:45:04 PM
Easton is making a new tapered FMJ now.  That 7" footer would bump coming into contact with the shelf during the draw it seems like

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Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: the rifleman on January 09, 2019, 09:17:31 PM
I did do something similar.  Last year i wanted extra long arrows to get a very close point on.  I glued a 7" section of 1816 to a ce predator w hot glue and a 2" overlap for 35" arrows.  I expected spine issues and i expected them to not hold up--- boy did they surprise me!  They shot great and held up great.  I thought it was one of my stupider ideas until i did it.
I think youd find it would work great for your application.  Id suggest putting together a bareshaft and tuning from there.
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: Jason W on January 10, 2019, 08:12:01 PM
I am working on a tapered carbon shaft.
I am in prototype stages now...
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: tcw on January 10, 2019, 11:54:13 PM
Might do to look at DaySix arrows. Heavy, thick carbon shafts, metal collars/outserts. I know a few guys that shoot them and think they are darn near indestructable. I've got some on order.
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: TradBrewSC on January 11, 2019, 11:26:57 PM
looks like a good idea to me! I may give it a go on some old shafts!

I enjoy playing with different arrows and have been trying quite a few of the popular ones over the past few years.

I shot 2" footed axis trads for years and found them to be very durable, and are actually shooting well out of a Primal Styk I picked up recently. I then started shooting 2" footed FMJ's that too shot really well, tunable, w/ better performance on game than the trads.

Last year I bought X-impacts with 100gr SS outserts and 200gr heads and absolutely loved the way they flew. I achieved close to 30% FOC. Most likely the best flying arrow to date but found them to be incredibly brittle. They would snap at the outsert from hitting the slightest irregularity such as left over field points in targets. I did however shoot a doe in the goodies with one tipped with a Abowyer Brownbear that passed through like butter. I know people are having great success using these with the Valkarie system, including one of my close friends, but have yet to drop the coin on that pricey system.

This fall I bought a half dozen of the new Arrow Dynamic Stingers with 100gr brass inserts, 200 up front, and have really enjoyed them. They seem to be very durable and consistent for not having any type of footing. I have only mushroomed one, and that was on a direct hit on a big rock with a blunt while stumping. I attained 24% FOC and was surprised that it wasn't more than the x-impacts having the tapered design down to micro diameter. I hunted with them a bit, but was unable to test them on a critter.

I am currently in Reno for the Safari Club Int. convention with work and was able to walk over to the Grizzly Stik booth today. This is the first time I have been able to put my hands on them and talk to these folks, and to say I was impressed is an understatement. They seem to have everything I have been looking for, with great guys working there. I went ahead and ordered a test kit to give them a try. The cool thing is that if you get the test kit, like it, and decide to order a dozen, they will deduct the cost of the test kit from the dozen and mail them out to you. I will let everyone know my thoughts after I put them through the ringer!
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: Tedd on January 12, 2019, 12:55:27 AM
I have been using the .320 Grizzly Sticks for a few weeks and they are at least equal to the highest quality shafts you can get. Super durable. I actually had them since last spring. I still have all 6 and beat some of them up and they are still like new. My only complaint...they should be an inch longer for tuning purposes.
Fist deer I shot at with them does not like them at all![attachment=1,msg2842680]
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: beendare on January 12, 2019, 01:23:47 AM
The easy solution is to use the Weight tubes that 3Rivers sells.

They are cheap and come in 3 different weights and multiple sizes......in most the tubes give you extra weight without affecting your tune.

If you use the heavy tubes, its best to epoxy the tubes in so they don't blow out inserts/noks. A little dab of epoxy works.
Title: Re: Grizzlystik alternative?
Post by: JimB on January 12, 2019, 08:07:20 PM
Any full length internal weight will increase dynamic spine.Many don't realize this because they don't check tune after installing them.It doesn't matter how flexible the material is,it increases DYNAMIC SPINE.