Looking for suggestions on a late season jacket things get a little cold in Montana in December and January! Been using a Cabelas 1/4 zip Wooltimate jacket little noisy and bulky.
While it probably doesn't get as cold here in New York as it does in Montana, when the temps dip into the 20's or so I turn to my Sitka Fanatic jacket or my Firstlite Boundary jacket to keep me warm on stand. They are a bit expensive but if you shop around you can find them on sale occasionally.
Been looking at both was concerned about the noise some are saying with the fanatic.
I have the Sitka Incinerator bibs and jacket. Very good at blocking the wind and warm. Not particularly quiet. Wouldn't work very well for still hunting, IMO, but fine on stand. I've drawn on deer very close without the fabric sounds spooking them.
For still hunting, I still use all wool like King of the Mountain or Grey Wolf.
I get no noise at all from either jacket. The Fanatic's exterior is fleece-like.
The four jackets that I am looking at are the Sitka Fanatic, First Lite Woodbury, Cabelas Wooltimate, and day one parka.would of purchased the Woodbury my size is not available anyone have any thoughts on these coats or had most of them what would be your pick.
Fanatic, for sure. With the bibs.
I think the wooltimate is hard to beat, windbreaking warmth.
First lite sanctuary parka and bibs. I've used it for several years now. I layer under it according to the temperature and how long I'm sitting still.
Tapered sleeves for archery. A hood that you can shoot with while wearing and still see to your sides. No noise from the material. Light weight when compared to my silent predator wool and warmer.
First lite sanctuary!!!
I have a first lite sanctuary jacket that I wear on windy days only, as I am concerned about the noise it makes. (paranoid) I still go back to my heavy wool jacket when it is super quiet out and near 10 above or colder.
I have all of the jackets you are considering. All are good and serve a purpose, but if I was stand hunting in Montana in January for over three hours at a time I would buy the Sanctuary. You should be able to stay as long as your feet will let you in single digit temps. The Woodbury and the fanatic are okay down into the upper teens. The wooltimate will require lots of layers and bulk to stay comfortable below 20 degrees.
Quote from: arrow30 on November 26, 2018, 07:33:14 AM
I think the wooltimate is hard to beat, windbreaking warmth.
X2 ... I have the jacket and pants, love them. Also I have a KOM stand master jacket that is super but you might find it bulky, its a jacket within a jacket. Not a still hunting garment for sure.
Check out Gray Wolf Woolens. I have a Wolfskin jacket with insulation and wind blocker and it's the warmest thing I've ever put on. Dead quiet, and available in ASAT and Predator - two great patterns.
I know the Sanctuary is great as well but I prefer the softer light diffusing fabric of the Gray Wolf.
I have been using Wooltimate with great success.Just came back from a hunt in the low 20's with gusty winds,polypropylene base layer,heavy wool sweater and pullover and was very comfortable.For the cost I feel it is a great product.
camo Filson double mac with a Filson wool vest under neath.
It depends on how far you are walking or carrying gear. Are moving or in your in a stand for hours? Kuiu synthetics can't be beat in most applications. Unless you are just goin a few hundred easy yards to a stand, then there is some heavier options that would be warmer.
The Kuiu layering like the insulated snap shirt and Kenai jacket combined is incredibly warm and almost weightless and silent. Kuiu's down is probably warmer but I'm not a fan of that particular jacket skin. It seems like it would just a little loud when drawing. I'm sure you could put something on over it.
I got one of the Kuiu insulated snap shirts for an every day work/office jacket. It's too hot most of the time like just standing in line at the convenience store. The stuff is amazing for it's bulk and weight.
Tedd
Okay the two I like the best are sitka fanatic and the sanctuary the sanctuary looks great but real bulky is it or is it just the pictures?
I went with the Sitka Celsius as I found that the Fanatic is too bulky in the chest. I'm currently trying to find a better insulator to go under it (perhaps the Celsius Midi), as it doesn't stop the wind and only is good for me down to about 25. If you can find an insulating windstopper that won't bind, you should be good well below that with the Celsius.
I have the fanatic, and love the cut on the sleeves and the warmth to bulk ratio, but that fleece is noisy as heck on the draw, particularly the string arm. Seriously thinking of cutting that sleeve off. The warmest that I have found is cabelas stand hunter. Bulky, but binoculars scraps solve that. Seldom cold enough to use them, but much quite on the draw than the fanatic, IMO.
The cold came in early in NW Ohio this year. I have been wearing my wooltimate jacket and pants with layering underneath, that I bought new at the end of last years hunt. I wish I would have had it many years ago. The wind does not go through it, and it is nice and warm. Have any of you had the berber fleece from Cabelas? I am thinking that may be a good option when it is not quite as cold as it is now. I also love the outfitter camo in the tree stand, I don't think you will get skylined as quick this time of year.
I have the cabbalas berber. It is very heavy in physical weight and also extremely warm and blocks wind. You can't walk anywhere in it, the pants wad up n are too hot if you go more than 1/2 mile..
I forgot to mention that so far all pcs of Kuiu that I have do not interfere with the string when shooting or restrict drawing.
Tedd
Another fan of wooltimate I have the pants and coat its good stuff
i just got the Kryptek Vellus Fleece pants and they are quiet and warm wearing them one hunt. I love the pants so much that I wished I had ordered the jacket but they are sold out.
I use a Cabela's Wooltimate Fleece jacket I got about 7-8 years ago...I've never gotten cold in it. Layer with a wool sweater with wind shear lining and I can sit in some serious cold
I can't really speak to Montana temperatures, but I used the First Lite Woodbury jacket with a KUIU super down jacket underneath in Colorado in December. Plenty warm with some layering versatility.
Not really in a position to help you guys up north and out west, since our winters just don't match up to yours. However, I have done well with the old M65 army coat with good layering. I have used a base of silk ski underwear with wool long handles. Over that I have a Pendleton wool shirt, a wool commando sweater and a down vest. It is very warm and not as bulky as it sounds. I can still handle the bow. It is a whole lot cheaper than much of the new stuff. I have used it in very cold (by Southern standards) as well as very windy conditions but not necessarily the combination of both cold and wind as you may encounter. Just suggesting that layering could save some cash. Let us know what you select.
Sitka stuff is the warmest I have found, and the Celsius is super quiet and the warmest, but no windblock as mentioned above. If you can come up with a windblock layer this woyld be the best of all worlds. I have been wearing a windblock vest underneath it and that seems to work well. Again, it's Sitka, go up a size.
Quote from: brian wagar on November 25, 2018, 09:49:38 AM
Looking for suggestions on a late season jacket things get a little cold in Montana in December and January! Been using a Cabelas 1/4 zip Wooltimate jacket little noisy and bulky.
LLBean Maine guide wool with primaloft. I have tried many modern hunting garments and the LLbean wool jacket and pants with primaloft wins hands down. It will surprise you.....
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KOM Made the Standmaster Jacket and Bibs, I think no weather in this world can go through.