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Title: Carbon arrows
Post by: stickbow24 on November 11, 2018, 08:53:38 PM
Hello all.  Sorry if I am putting this in the wrong spot.  I did some searching and couldn't get what I needed.   With archery season ending tomorrow and my supply of unbent arrows dwindling, I am ready to restock, but with carbon.   I am new to carbon and feel overwhelmed.   I shoot about 27-27.5 draw at 48lbs. Current arrows are 29" from valley in the nick to end of 150gr tip. The tip is about 1 inch.  So arrow is closer to 28". I would also like to be able to use lumanocks for hunting.  Never could before with my xx75s.

I am willing to invest but also don't need to get the highest grade.  I like to install my own wraps and feathers so bare shafts not an issue. 

I would appreciate any direction.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: McDave on November 11, 2018, 09:52:52 PM
If it were me, I would use .500 spine ultralights with a 175 grain broadhead.  The ultralights will keep the overall weight down, and the 175 grain broadheads will offset the extra weight of the luminocks and put the weight up front where you need it.

Some will probably chime in and say you need even more weight up front, which is your choice.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: Possum Head on November 11, 2018, 10:05:51 PM
I shoot the same draw and weight and have recently got some 500 Beman Center Shots from Big Jim. I left them full length and use 175 gr points. They shoot fine but no different than my 500 Gold tip Traditionals which I've used for many years.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: mahantango on November 11, 2018, 10:07:25 PM
Ihave nearly identical specs and shoot .600 CX out of most bows 45 -52#. Not a fan of extreme efoc, use mostly 125-175 g. points. I find carbon shafts much more sensitive to length than point weight. No experience with luma nocks, so maybe you will need .500s? Don't know how much weight they add.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: acedoc on November 11, 2018, 11:05:41 PM
You can offset the spine and nock weight by adding point weight. Don't be afraid to go overboard with the point weight.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: Terry Green on November 12, 2018, 09:46:59 AM
I added some Luminox once two and a half dozen of my arrow dynamics traditionals.  I never even considered off setting that minuscule weight. I wouldn't worry one red Cent about the weight of a Lumenok. If the weight of a Lumenok affects your arrows
.... if the teeny teeny weeny amount of weight  additional than a regular knock  causes your arrow to be out of tune, you are way way borderline spine.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: Tim Finley on November 12, 2018, 10:14:46 AM
I shoot 48 to 52# and shoot a 400 Beman or Goldtip with the wood grain ( the wood grain are 25 grain heavier than the black ones )  I shoot about a 150 grain head all fly great no weight tubes no efoc BS just plain arrows !  But still my favorites are my Doug Firs .
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: stickbow24 on November 12, 2018, 06:15:01 PM
Thank you all for the info.   I was looking at the bemans on big Jim's website.  If I do the 500s at 28" shaft, 19gr insert, 150 gr head that gets me up to about 407 gr total arrow.  For a 48 lb draw that's 8.5 he per lb.  does that seem like enough for deer.    I currently shoot 2117s. Which are much heavier. Just seems like a big difference, but is that ok because carbon is stiffer at lighter weight. 

Is there a downside to going with 400s for more weight or is that not necessary. 

Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: jess stuart on November 13, 2018, 12:50:25 PM
Kenny I shoot similar draw weight and use .500 cut to 29", 150 grian broadhead.  I drop 3/16" nylon cord into the shaft to get the weight up.  I don't know about efoc as I have never tried it.
Title: Re: Carbon arrows
Post by: kenneth butler on November 16, 2018, 08:12:51 PM
400's will be  lot stiffer not necessary  much more weight. They will let you use a lot heavier weight up front, if you are into the heavy FOC . Be careful cutting them back. Carbons get stiff in a hurry as they are shortened. >>>>-----> Ken