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Title: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: KSdan on September 08, 2018, 06:20:42 PM
Congrats again to Corey on his elk.  It was actually a perfect heart shot on a broadside animal.

I did find it interesting. . .    I have watched a handful of the Youtube bowhunting vids this summer.  It really is amazing how guys get excited after the hit- when many shots are really terrible. Good grief- many are 10-12" off where they should be. Makes me wonder how many hunts are not published and how many animals are not recovered.   

I am convinced again that bowhunting is best served as a close encounter weapon. And further, many guys really do not know where to hit an animal.

Just some friendly 2C advice. . . .Take the time to study actual anatomy photos and autopsies.  On a true broadside shot- hitting a deer/elk just above the "elbow" and actually putting it through the leg muscle/triangle, center punches the vitals- being the heart/top-of- heart and both lungs.  Quartering away adjusts this accordingly. 

Congrats again Corey.  Your video should be put in our TG anatomy archives.

Dan in KS
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: bigbadjon on September 08, 2018, 07:30:01 PM
https://youtu.be/BOr8o7PF-Bs

Is this the video?
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: KSdan on September 08, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
YES.  Thanks for posting it. . .  And check his follow up pics/posts.  He centered the heart!

Dan in KS
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Bisch on September 08, 2018, 11:13:33 PM
Totally agree!!! 4" behind the shoulder and real low is nothing but guts. I've seen many folks talk about how they "smoked" a deer with that shot, but for some reason, couldn't find it!

Bisch
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on September 08, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Yep, yep, yep!

Straight up the leg bone, 1/3rd of the way up the elk! That's my ideal shot.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: SteveB on September 09, 2018, 06:44:31 AM
Quote from: Trumpkin the Dwarf on September 08, 2018, 11:19:28 PM
Yep, yep, yep!

Straight up the leg bone, 1/3rd of the way up the elk! That's my ideal shot.

Same on a deer for me.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Charlie Lamb on September 09, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
I'd be interested in the equipment particulars.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: awbowman on September 09, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: Charlie Lamb on September 09, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
I'd be interested in the equipment particulars.

Just checked his post, he was shooting his 52# Zona recurve.  Using single bevel Magnus Classic broadhead weighing 584 grains.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: SteveB on September 09, 2018, 12:08:17 PM
I'm thinking that it hit the opposite leg and bounded back giving the appearance of less penetration. Had it happen several times. Too fast to be seen in real time.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: JLeMieux on September 09, 2018, 02:55:15 PM
Yeah, it looked like it hit the offside shoulder. When he pulled the arrow out while breaking it down, the tip was split and one side curled on the head.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Charlie Lamb on September 09, 2018, 05:55:40 PM
"When he pulled the arrow out while breaking it down, the tip was split and one side curled on the head."
Doesn't sound like the Magnus I used to know. It would indicate that it hit something pretty dang hard.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Basinboy on September 09, 2018, 07:31:56 PM
Quote from: Charlie Lamb on September 09, 2018, 05:55:40 PM
"When he pulled the arrow out while breaking it down, the tip was split and one side curled on the head."
Doesn't sound like the Magnus I used to know. It would indicate that it hit something pretty dang hard.

Mr Charlie it hit the offside knuckle. I was in a trees stand and the downward angle had the exit lower than the entrance.
Here's a pic of the head and one of the heart.
Thanks KsDan for the kind words, I just got lucky  :goldtooth:
(https://s19.postimg.cc/loa1o3blf/C0E000AF-EC22-4DBD-AF1D-B043811D75A0.jpg)
(https://s19.postimg.cc/5rb9r7ykz/44_E5_AF2_A-773_F-4_F73-9_B8_F-60_D8_BA8873_CB.jpg)
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: WVFarrier on September 09, 2018, 07:37:51 PM
Nice shot.  That heart is HUGE!!!
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: KSdan on September 09, 2018, 09:32:35 PM
Corey- The dignity of your skillful participation and Divine kindness = success. What a great gift. Thanks for sharing it w us. 

Dan in KS
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Bisch on September 09, 2018, 10:52:33 PM
I think there is a whole lot more skill than luck in Corey's successes!!!!

Bisch
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Charlie Lamb on September 10, 2018, 07:39:47 AM
That was a great shot on a fine animal. You'll be eating good for a while! Congratulations.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: John Scifres on September 13, 2018, 10:13:07 AM
Awesome shot and video.  You can literally see the bones he adroitly avoided.  Highlighted here.  That's how you do it.[attachment=1]
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: KSdan on September 13, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
Here's a good one. 

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Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: stujay on September 13, 2018, 02:34:12 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: KSdan on September 13, 2018, 07:57:18 PM
Interesting to me too. .   Note the elk cut-away. When the leg goes FORWARD the scapula pivots DOWNWARD slightly.  I hear many guys saying they wait for the leg to go forward and they shoot. You're better shooting above that elbow as the leg comes BACK. The scapula actually pivots up and out of the way.
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Trenton G. on September 13, 2018, 08:29:01 PM
The shoulder blade on most big game animals actually seems quite a bit farther forward than I was led to believe when I started hunting. It seems like you've got quite a bit of room there to get an arrow through where I used to think was all bone. Great shot on that cow!
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: ron w on September 13, 2018, 08:47:37 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Corey's Elk center punched the vitals. . . Good education for us.
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 14, 2018, 02:17:01 PM
Congrats Corey