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Title: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 22, 2018, 09:26:27 AM
Hello folks

I'm brand new to trad gang, I haven't shot since high school(14 years ago) and decided I would like a new hobby.  Now I'm HOOKED

I've been reading up on aiming techniques.
Some of the post have videos of shooting form and technique, however the link will not allow me to view the videos


I know I'm beating the horse when asking this question but perhaps it's good to refresh the topic.

• What's your shooting style ?   
• What advice would you give to a semi new archer?
• Do you have a go to YouTuber you follow for advice?
• Within tradgang are there any post you recommend reading ?

Thanks for reading

Cheers

Josh


Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on August 22, 2018, 10:37:19 AM
Welcome to Tradgang! I would check out The Push on YouTube. It's a great comprehensive video on different aiming techniques. Matt and Tim from the push also have a great traditional archery podcast going under the same name that largely deals with archery form, aiming techniques,  and the mental game. Good luck
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 22, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
The push.  Ok gonna watch that today

Thank you

Also I should mention.

My bow is a 45#/68" hybrid long bow I use this for target

I also have a 55#/ 68" as well. For hunting someday when I'm actually able to consistently hit a 6" grouping...got it for 120$ with two arm guard, gloves and holster.   Couldn't resist.

Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on August 22, 2018, 12:08:37 PM
Don't be afraid to hunt with the 45# bow if you shootit better.  That's plenty of weight on almost anything in north America with the correct arrow setup
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 22, 2018, 02:31:11 PM
Lee - the push is a great video thank you

I've been wondering if the 45# would do the job ethically.  I seem to find a lot of mixed opinions but....40# is the legal weight in Alberta

I think my draw weight is higher then stamped on the belly of my 45# bow.
Reason I believe that is I bought a new 68amo string for the 55# bow and it's about 2" longer then what came on the 45# bow.

:archer2:
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: LBR on August 22, 2018, 05:42:18 PM
Invest $25 in the video "Masters of the Barebow, Volume III".  Even better, if you can, get to a Rod Jenkins clinic.  Either one can take years off the learning curve and save you loads of money in lost/broken arrows, wrong spines, wrong bows, and frustration.  No magic elixirs, just proven and easy to follow instruction.  If you do the drills, it will work.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Miikka on August 23, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
I shoot instinctive and my go-to channels for archery on YouTube are archery adventures, wolfie Hughes and Jeff Kavanagh. As for advice I'd say go slow and don't "over bow" your self, bad habbits die hard.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 23, 2018, 07:43:54 PM
I've been reading the name Jeff Kavanagh a lot. I'll give him a look
Thank you for the reply

Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 23, 2018, 07:45:15 PM
Quote from: LBR on August 22, 2018, 05:42:18 PM
Invest $25 in the video "Masters of the Barebow, Volume III".  Even better, if you can, get to a Rod Jenkins clinic.  Either one can take years off the learning curve and save you loads of money in lost/broken arrows, wrong spines, wrong bows, and frustration.  No magic elixirs, just proven and easy to follow instruction.  If you do the drills, it will work.


In the video the push they also mentioned this series

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to pick up the whole set or are you just recommending the third primarily?
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: McDave on August 23, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
I recommend the whole set.  You don't have to watch them in order.  I bought them one by one as they came out, and re-watch the whole series every few years.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: reddogge on August 29, 2018, 02:39:08 PM
My advice is to use some kind of system to aim starting out. Pick your favorite. It will eliminate 1/2 of the equation of hitting the target and you can concentrate on form the other half.

Moebow here and McDave above both give solid advice. As far as U-tubers go with Moebow and Jimmy Blackmon.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Jsavoy on August 29, 2018, 03:17:34 PM
 Just wanted to thank everybody for their advice since this post I have dialled my shot in considerably

I was having some issues hitting my 2'x2' before(at 25-40y)  but since I've set up for a fixed crawl...(thanks Lee for referring me to "the push")
I've been getting tighter and tighter groupings every time I shoot now

5-15 yards is a solid 2-6" group
15-25 is much cleaner around 6-10" groups
And 25-40 needs some work but I hit the 2'x2' everytime now. 

I love the fixed crawl now.   But still mess around instinctively at the end of my shoots now just to see what happens. I can hit both ways but the crawl make me so much more confident. 

I'm just happy I don't have to go arrow hunting anymore lol
Thanks everyone for your advice
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Tajue17 on August 30, 2018, 06:00:41 AM
don't aim just Lookie Lookie ,,,,, like throwing a rock just gets some blunts and look at stuff around the yard and shooting at everything......eventually you'll start hitting those little things as long as you don't keep changing the gear.

as for hunting,,,, once I decide I'm taking a shot I look at nothing but where I want my arrow to go and the animals eyes and body language are in my secondary vision,,,,, its the only way I can explain it  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Don Stokes on August 30, 2018, 10:25:38 AM
joebuck gives great aiming advice: Look down the arrow, because that's where it's going. Always true when your setup is well matched.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: YosemiteSam on August 30, 2018, 05:27:11 PM
I shoot gap...  Most of the time.  My favorite YouTube guys are Clay Hayes and Jimmy Blackmon -- both gap shooters.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: LBR on August 31, 2018, 01:36:50 AM
QuoteIn the video the push they also mentioned this series

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to pick up the whole set or are you just recommending the third primarily?

I and II are entertaining, but III is the "meat and potatoes" as far as learning good form.  I haven't seen IV, haven't finished V.  I do know the main players in III and V have proven themselves as hunters, competitors, and coaches.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: Lakerat007 on August 31, 2018, 04:26:56 AM
I shoot instinctive. My advice is to try them all and see what your best at. I was convinced I would be a fixed crawl gap shooter, but not the case. I enjoy the push, masters of the barebow series and Clay Hayes on you tube.
Title: Re: New guy aiming advice needed please
Post by: RJonesRCRV on August 31, 2018, 03:30:54 PM
Whatever method you use, Ill add that it REALLY helped me to use two anchor points: middle finger to the corner of my mouth and arrow fletch touching my nose tip.  The fletch to my nose ensures I come to my full draw with back tension.  I think the double anchor point helps maintain consistency by slowing my shot sequence down, as I had a bout of target panic earlier this year.