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Title: Stalking boots
Post by: Colin06 on August 19, 2018, 02:41:25 PM
Hi, I would like to ask for any recommendations for a pair of good stalking boots with quiet soles. The boots I have now make tons of noise when I'm walking or trying to stalk.
The terrain I hunt on is mostly small rocks and stones on roads like logging roads in a very dry and arid area (Southern France). Temps around 90° in September and dropping to around -2° in December and January
I am considering trying some crepe soled ankle boots with extra woollen socks during the colder months but wondered if any of you guys have found any good boots that would work as well as or even better than the crepe soles to be able to move quietly
Even when I walk slowly and carefully and try to avoid the rocks and stones (which is an impossibility in this area), they still make loads of crunching noise
I understand that it's impossible to move quietly over certain types of terrain, but I want to minimise the noise my footwear is creating on the rocks and stones
Thanks
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: goingoldskool on August 19, 2018, 02:47:02 PM
I really like my 16" Maine hunting boot from LL  Bean.  They don't have a crepe sole, but the rubber sole is soft.

Good luck, shoot straight and God bless,
Rodd
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: bunyan on August 19, 2018, 03:16:02 PM
For dryer, warmer conditions don't forget a good old pair of chuck Taylor style canvas sneakers! Fred bear even wore them sometimes! LL Bean boots are good too!
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: neargeezer on August 19, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
You might look at Steger Mukluks.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Pat B on August 19, 2018, 03:56:12 PM
LL Bean hunting boots, the older the better.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: pavan on August 19, 2018, 04:13:27 PM
I didn't know there was bow hunting in southern France, cool.  A friend swears by his super expensive moccasins, that he had crepe soles added to.  They are very nice, but i will never tell him that.  Once when stalking a decent 8 pointer with about 80 yards to go, he stepped on a downed tree limb that he must have thought that he couldn't go around or step over.  It blew up like dead wood fireworks.  The 8 point buck spun in his direction and came straight at him like a Spanish bull.  He missed it at short yardage.  When it came towards me, I blew on my fawn call to slow him down, but instead, he threw it into full turbo charged over drive, so I saved myself an arrow and let him pass.  Noise and still hunting, crunching snow and crunching gravel will always alert deer.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Hoosierarcher88 on August 19, 2018, 05:23:20 PM
Ive been meaning to get some materials together to make some nice moccasins for early season stalks. Late season i just still hunt usually which means my lacrosse alpha burly's. I really do need to find something for that in between temp where its too cold for moccasins but not cold enough for the big lacrosse
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Tim Finley on August 19, 2018, 09:25:33 PM
We use Jesus sneakers , that's what we call them anyways . They are a 3/4 inch thick felt that is made into a sandal that goes over your boots very quite in rocks and gravel I think you could make a pair . There is also a slip on for over your boots called Bear paw or something like that and they work good and are maybe lighter than the sandals we have in our packs .
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Hoosierarcher88 on August 19, 2018, 10:19:01 PM
Quote from: Tim Finley on August 19, 2018, 09:25:33 PM
We use Jesus sneakers , that's what we call them anyways . They are a 3/4 inch thick felt that is made into a sandal that goes over your boots very quite in rocks and gravel I think you could make a pair . There is also a slip on for over your boots called Bear paw or something like that and they work good and are maybe lighter than the sandals we have in our packs .
Pse use to sell something like that back in the 90's called sneaky pete feet. We use to sell a bunch of them out of the shop. You could get them with either felt or wool soles
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: pavan on August 19, 2018, 11:30:41 PM
I have gone on canoe trips with felt wading soles glued to my portage boots.   That stuff sticks to wet rocks better than anything.  On a pair of light canvas ankle high boots, they could work pretty good.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: HOGLESS2 on August 20, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
L.L. Bean gum soles
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: YosemiteSam on August 20, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
Bare feet.  No boots required.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Colin06 on August 20, 2018, 12:43:25 PM
Actually been looking into toughening my feet but don't have the time plus in winter, I'd imagine barefoot is no fun
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: YosemiteSam on August 20, 2018, 04:36:14 PM
Colin - it's much easier than you'd think.  It just takes a little getting used to.  Once you take your shoes off, you feel everything and it's overwhelming at first -- like going from a room of total silence to a busy subway station.  But after a while, you learn to focus your attention on some things while ignoring most of the input.  Some skin toughening is needed but most of it is psychological.  One thing is for sure, if you go barefoot much, you learn to pay better attention to where you step and you step more gently.  Every now and then, I'll pick up something sharp, like a stiff, dry pine needle.  But you'd be surprised at what you can walk on comfortably once you've learned to do it.

All the same, I've also hunted & stalked while wearing vibram's Five Finger shoes.  Goofy as they come but it's the next best thing to being barefoot while offering you some level of protection.  If you step on something sharp, they will keep you from bleeding but not from swearing.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Sam McMichael on August 20, 2018, 06:05:24 PM
Stalking has never been my strong suit, as I clump like an elephant. Plus, I always wear snake boots. Yet, the soft soles on my snake boots are actually very quiet. They are just as quiet as my Bean boots. I would never, ever consider barefoot.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Colin06 on August 20, 2018, 08:42:32 PM
Thanks guys. Considering whether climbing shoes or those shoes people use when going swimming from a rocky beach might work. The soles are thin and pretty soft
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Steve Jr on August 20, 2018, 08:52:55 PM
Wrestling shoes work pretty good.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: slowbowjoe on August 20, 2018, 10:50:12 PM
Forget about climbing shoes; they're terrible for walking. In my climbing days, we'd often clip a pair of sneakers to our harness to wear if we needed to walk around and down a cliff when we topped out from the climb.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: k9bowman on August 21, 2018, 12:10:34 PM
Go into the website for Sodhoppers moccasins. Some of the best "final stalk" footwear made.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: slowbowjoe on August 21, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
X2 on checking out the Sodhoppers. Pricey, but superb.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: cacciatore on August 21, 2018, 01:48:20 PM
Colin if the price isn't a issue look at the Russell Mocassin Co.
They make the best money can buy.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: two4hooking on August 21, 2018, 03:18:53 PM
Sounds like you are describing the LL Bean Maine Hunting Shoe. Nothing better for stalking IMO.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: dragonheart on August 21, 2018, 04:14:55 PM
Lems boulder boots
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: bruce on August 21, 2018, 07:43:53 PM
Colin find a pair of inexpensive hikers or really it can be any shoe you like but look for a pair that has the softer mid sole. I find all kinds of different shoes at goodwill or it can even be a store like Payless. Cut or grind off the harder outersole and walk on the midsole. I have used these for years, from lightweight hikers to running shoes. They make a quiet stalker and are quite comfortable,plus you can usually find the type of shoe that works for you.
bruce
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: pavan on August 21, 2018, 07:52:36 PM
I find that i am a much quieter stalker, when i don't slip and fall down.  it's not so much the fall that frightens deer, as it is the "ugh" when I hit or the "damn it' when I get up.  Most of the time it is not the step that makes the noise, but more the what you step on.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: bkspyder on August 22, 2018, 02:27:53 PM
SneekTec makes something that looks like berber felt on the bottom of teva sandals. Probably not hard to make a DIY version.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: dragonheart on August 22, 2018, 02:29:47 PM
These are trad...

https://gillsprimitivearchery.com/product/mens-cork-moosehide-moccasin-all-natural-soft-sole-bb37597/
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: bkspyder on August 22, 2018, 03:19:40 PM
Had a thought, what about those slip-on felt overshoes people use so they don't track muddy boots in the house? Probably something inexpensive to try.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: slowbowjoe on August 22, 2018, 05:40:54 PM
Just a note about leather soled moccassins: you will occasionally have your feet slide out from under you on some surfaces. Felt, crepe, or some kind of  grippy rubber is highly advised.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Don Stokes on August 23, 2018, 03:49:54 PM
I use LL Bean rubber-bottom boots with the insoles removed in warm weather, Mukluks in cold weather. I've used the regular Bean "Maine hunting shoe" boots for decades. The goretex insulated model is stiffer and not as quiet in the woods.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Don Stokes on August 23, 2018, 03:52:28 PM
Haha pavan. Me too.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Don Stokes on August 23, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
I'm ordering a pair of the L. L. Bean boots today for a special friend. They have an additional 25% off the items already on sale right now, and luckily they have her size. There are men's boots on sale too.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Sam McMichael on August 23, 2018, 04:47:01 PM
I just don't have the guts to wear soft footwear in early season. Too many snake issues. Today, I was mowing one of the roads on my property, which goes near one of my favorite stands. I ran over a timber rattler but unfortunately didn't kill it. Snake boots in warm weather are the only footwear I feel safe in, but the soft soles are actually very quiet.
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Birdbow on August 23, 2018, 08:13:43 PM
x10 for the LL Bean Maine Hunting boot. there's a Thinsulate version or up size to use heavy/extra socks for colder conditons
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Ron LaClair on August 24, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
Here's mine from Dyer Moccasins listed as (Eight- Eye lace boot). I went with the buffalo hide, fleece lined

(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Buffalo-boots.jpg)

(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Buffalo-boots-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stalking boots
Post by: Dave Rice on August 24, 2018, 01:15:24 PM
For the conditions that you describe, another vote for Lems Boulder Boots, Belleville Boot Company Mini Mil, and Vivobarefoot Tracker FG are all options. Lems are the least structured and quietest. I have them all in my search for the best boots for general hiking and hunting. These are all close to zero drop (no heel lift) and will put strain on your achilles tendon until you get used to them--closer to walking barefoot, but with some protection for your feet.

The Dyer Moccasins look great! And the LL Bean boots are classics, and I have a pair of Russell Moccasin Company boots on order.