For those of you, who are shooting lower poundage bows like me, what head are you shooting to get the job done and at what grain weight? I'm talking of those bows in the 40#-45# range.
Let's not turn this into a properly tuned/properly sharpened/properly placed shot debate! I already know that stuff. Just want to know what folks like for a broadhead. Thanks in advance, TW. :thumbsup:
I've used and had really good results shooting Grizzly single bevels, Woodsmans, and Zwickeys. I would say that as far as just flat out shooting through stuff, the Grizzly takes the cake. All 3 will kill any deer/turkey or <150lb hog out there. Everything I'm shooting is 200gr.
Thanks for the reply Husky! I like the looks of the single bevel heads. I am contemplating the one from RMSGear for this years adventures but, I'm open to persuasion! :bigsmyl:
I'm shooting 150 grain Stingers,out of a 47# bow
Ive had good luck w 156 gr single bevel, total arrow weight of 495 from 38# bow.
Going down to 454 grs in this bow this year. Also using a 125 stinger w .800 spine arrows from a 36# long bow total weight 356 grains.
200 grain 3 blade VPA's are my broadhead of choice for trad. I have shot deer with them with bows as low as 40 lbs but usually shoot mid 40's on bow weight.
200 grn cut throat, 42 Lb.
I'm shooting a 19" Gilo with med. rc woods @ forty five .lbs and have not tried them but will soon and that is the Exodus 125grs. All reviews say that they shoot like field points,LOL but they are priced good and look like they will do the job on white tails.
Quote from: the rifleman on June 12, 2018, 07:05:32 PM
Ive had good luck w 156 gr single bevel, total arrow weight of 495 from 38# bow.
Going down to 454 grs in this bow this year. Also using a 125 stinger w .800 spine arrows from a 36# long bow total weight 356 grains.
Rifleman, right now my arrows weight is 460gr. AD Trad Lite cut 29.5" bop with 145gr up front. My bow will be approx. 40#-41#. Looks like we are in the same ball park.
I think you'll be good to go--- you know the important stuff--- sharp head, fine tune, and accurate placement.
Best of luck this season!
Magnus Stingers 125 grain, 42 # bow.
Ace standards, 125 grains. I'm pulling 42 or 43 lbs. Any more weight up front and my arrow weight gets too high; this is with wood shafts. I like my arrows to end up 9-10 gpp, and about the same "FOC".
Joe, what length are your arrows if you don't mind me asking?
Zwickey Eskimo and/or No Mercy 2 edge. Bow weight approx. 40 lbs. at my draw length. Wood arrows from 460 to 500 grains. Whitetail deer mostly and maybe one day a Swamp Chicken!
I like to try at least one new one a year. Or revisit an old favorite. Grizzlies, abowers, cutthroat, VPA 3-blade, woodsmen and Simmons are always ready to go and one of each in the quiver.
Zwickey Eskimos beefed up to 200 grains with steel adapters at 48#. Have not tried the single bevels.
Ace standard.......
Quote from: ron w on June 12, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
Ace standard.......
Is that the head you shot your bear with Ron?
I don't actually shoot them myself, but the Cutthroats by RMSGear are really, really, tempting. The warranty plus the design and durability really set them apart IMO. If I hadn't already gotten a really good deal on some Bishop Scientific Method 315's, the 250 grain Cutthroat would definitely be on the end of my arrow! I'd recommend either that one, or the 200 grain.
Yeah, the Cutthroat is the one I am seriously contemplating. :thumbsup:
The cutthroats are great heads, I shoot the 250s on my 51# set up ( I shoot all kinds of heads on that setup)
on my 40# set up I am shooting single bevel grizzlies made up to 150-175 grains.
Zwickey eskimo or 150 gr. magnus Stinger have both worked well for me although have used the Eskimo for decades with good results. 45# @ 29.5, full length GT 500 with 100 gr. brass insert.
45 lb longbow, 125 gr Ace standard on cedar arrows. Arrow weight 510 grains.
Badgers penetrate very well with that set up. They fly really well too,they are pretty narrow though.
I have used grizzly and zwickey broadheads with my 45 lb bows. Generally sticking to single bevels. I also keep my total arrow weight over 500 gns. I agree that nothing penetrates better than the grizzly single bevel heads though I use the single bevel zwickey no mercy often because it is slightly wider and somewhat easier to sharpen (for me anyway). I can't say it makes a difference in blood trails but it works in my mind. I use steel adapters with the heads for a 200 - 250 grain head depending on the arrow.
I have use the Abower heads but didn't feel the additional cost over the grizzly and zwickey heads was worth it. But I would highly recommend them if you have a difficulty sharpening your heads. They come razor sharp with a perfect bevel and can be touched up easily with a stone.
I have used Zwickey Eskimos...125gr in past. Also recently used Grizzly Instinct 3 blade with great results out of 43# recurve. I typically use the exact same heads on my 60# bows as I do my light weight bows. I have Ribtek 190s, Grizzly Kodiak 200s, Grizzly Instincts as my broadheads. I get them as sharp as I can and limit my shots to angles and distances I am confident of my hit. Never a problem.
Looks like nobody mentioned STOS heads. I have had great results with them. I also like Zwickey Eskimo and Delta heads. All of these sharpen nicely. Shooting bows around 42-45#.
I shoot 43lb A&H longbow, and have killed deer, turkey's, woodchucks, and antelope with the following:
190gr Ribteks, with stainless insert equals around 235gr
Abowyer Wapiti 175gr, with 75gr insert equals 250gr
Wensel Woodsman, with 125gr insert equals 250gr
200gr VPA, with 50grain brass insert equals 250gr.
170gr Simmons Treeshark with 75gr insert equals 245gr.
All of these heads have performed excellent. I would say the WW and the Abowyer "kill the fastest" (deer went down within 30 yards, a few of them have just jumped 2X-3X and fell over, esp with the Abowyer), but had have the lightest blood trails. The Treeshark gave the best blood trail, but deer have travelled 50-75 yards. LOTS of factors effect blood trail, and others may have different conclusions, but this has been my experience.
Whatever, you shoot, make sure it's sharp and put your broadhead in the right spot, and you should have no issues.
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No one has mentioned the Steel Force heads. I've been looking at a couple of those. I.E. the 145gr Phat Head. I had them some years ago but, unfortunately, never got to find out how the work. :biglaugh:
My goto is a 190 grain VPA 3 blade.
Taken 3 white tail deer with a 45# bow and that head.
Works good.
Yes.......575 gr carbon arrow, Ace Standard with 75gr steel adapter, shot from 45# Zipper ILF with Dryad Static recurve limbs. Pass thru at 7 yards. Just a great combo.......... :thumbsup:
Quote from: ron w on June 13, 2018, 12:19:03 PM
Yes.......575 gr carbon arrow, Ace Standard with 75gr steel adapter, shot from 45# Zipper ILF with Dryad Static recurve limbs. Pass thru at 7 yards. Just a great combo.......... :thumbsup:
Sounds down right deadly! I think I might try to up my arrow weight just to ensure good penetration.
200 gain RMSG Cutthroat broadheads for my 46# draw weight. Ken
Nobody using bear razor heads anymore
I finally received my final 3 broadheads from grizzly for my 300 grain broadhead test so soon i will be getting started on comparisons. I have 7 single bevel options and one double bevel from grizzly i will be testing so hopefully it may shed some light on a good option for you. Ive got broadheads from the following.
Alien archery Australia
Tusker
Steelforce
Tuffhead
Cutthroat
Grizzly (grizzly, bruin and kodiak)
All are in the 300-325 grain range with steel adapters in the glue on models.
125 grain Zwickey Eskimo.
Quote from: Hoosierarcher88 on June 13, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
I finally received my final 3 broadheads from grizzly for my 300 grain broadhead test so soon i will be getting started on comparisons. I have 7 single bevel options and one double bevel from grizzly i will be testing so hopefully it may shed some light on a good option for you. Ive got broadheads from the following.
Alien archery Australia
Tusker
Steelforce
Tuffhead
Cutthroat
Grizzly (grizzly, bruin and kodiak)
All are in the 300-325 grain range with steel adapters in the glue on models.
I look forward to the results and your thoughts!
125 grain magnus stingers for me. I shoot around 45#. I have also used the zwickey eskilites, but I do not enjoy sharpening. :)
I shoot Zwickey 2blade Delta 46@27.5.
penrosefred, I was wondering the same thing. I shoot razorheads no matter what my bow weight. 46#-66#
Woodsman original; Grizzly single bevel; Bear razor heads --- I use brass inserts from 75 gr. up to 125 gr. to adjust FOC and tune -- all work well.
I try to stay around 50@30 plus or minus a couple of pounds. Nothing but 2 blade heads for me. Bear Razorheads, Zwickey Delta's, Zwickey Eskimo's, Zwickey Eskilites, Magnus 125 and 150 Stingers. Killed critters with them all......
Quote from: David Mitchell on June 13, 2018, 09:46:46 AM
Looks like nobody mentioned STOS heads. I have had great results with them. I also like Zwickey Eskimo and Delta heads. All of these sharpen nicely. Shooting bows around 42-45#.
Killed my last deer with a 42# RER recurve and a STOS head. EXCELLENT heads in my opinion. Sharpen well and actually stay sharp. Long and lean they fly great and penetrate even better.
Too bad they quit making em....
Eskimos steel adapter 100 gr insert
For deer I have stuck with what I use with my heavier bows, Woodsmans, VPA's, Snuffers or if a 2 blade a wide one like a Tusker Delta or Shark of some variety.
Sharks are a great compromise between a multi blade and a 2 blade, best of both worlds really.
Zwickey Eskimos, with 100 grain glued on steel adaptor, screwed onto a 75 Grain arrow tube insert. 300 grains up front.
For a Total arrow weight of 553 grains.
I was bitten by the Extreme FOC bug earlier this year and so invested in some heavier heads, both VPA and Valkyrie. Both fly well (VPA 200+ 100g insert/29" GT3555; Valkyrie250 + 50g insert/29" GT 3555). Penetration is unbelievable out of my 41# bow. Valkyrie has the slight edge, but is very "spendy". Arrows finish out at 545g. I think I may be done with 2-bladed heads as these sharpen so well and easily.
Helix single bevel 155 grain.
Quote from: Bowwild on June 18, 2018, 02:27:51 PM
Helix single bevel 155 grain.
I was curious to these broadheads. Do you have any harvest pics with one used?
Here is a buck I took with Big Foot recurve using the Axis arrow and Helix broached.[attachment=1]
Sorry, tried to post the picture (the one by my name) but it didn't come through. I thought I took the steps described by Rob but didn't work for me.
Roy
Hmmm, unfortunately I cannot open it to see but, that's ok. I put the head in my list of prospects. :-)
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Surprising how little love is shown for the eskilites!
They were made for lower # and are zwickey tough.
Quote from: acedoc on June 19, 2018, 12:39:16 AM
Surprising how little love is shown for the eskilites!
They were made for lower # and are zwickey tough.
Actually, that one is on my list of prospects too. But, which do you think, the 2 blade or the 4 blade?
Two blade for lower poundage is the general consensus, debate rages about single vs double bevel and profiles.
If thinking about multi blades I would say a sharp woodsman wensel.
I've been shooting 300 gr. upfront for at least 15years with 40-46# @ 26". I use a lite weight arrows 5-7 gr. per inch. 2 and 3 blade BH. Complete penetration 90% of the time. Accuracy in shot placement over poundage.
Bob: That's the direction I am headed --lots of up-front weight on a light-mass-weight shaft. It was really showing lots of promise. I'll get back to it once my shoulder heals up completely and I can shoot again. It just might turn out to be a good formula for light draw weight.
I like the glue-in-glue-on brass broadhead adaptors from Ace Archery Tackle. There are a good tool for getting the front weight where it needs to be.
Don't overlook the Howard Hill head. I also like STOS and Zwickey Deltas. In a three blade head, I use Woodsmans. Killed critters with all of them with sub 50# bows.
I don't think anyone mentioned the Wasp Sharpshooter 4 blade head. It's a tough little 150gr. 1" cutting diameter head. I use with my Easton axis trad. shafts 600 spine and 440gr. total weight. I'm shooting a Stalker Coyote about 41# at my draw length. I shot 2 deer the first year with these heads. Great little heads and well made. 3 rivers now has them on there web site! :thumbsup:
Ribtec 160 and 190s on my homade osier arrows. Bows I have in the 40 through 47 lb range are yew and osage self bows . I would also use Eskimos Grizzlys and Razorheads.
God bless,Steve
Stingers are another good one for low #
Anybody shoot the Muzzy Phantom 4 blade? I know Eichler has killed a lot with them.
I had a coworker that used the eichler edition phantoms from his compound. He loved them but did have issues with tip curl on several deer he shot
Quote from: Hoosierarcher88 on June 21, 2018, 08:08:27 AM
I had a coworker that used the eichler edition phantoms from his compound. He loved them but did have issues with tip curl on several deer he shot
Thank you, that's good to know!