Where the best place and price to buy cedar or fir shafts ?
Surewood shafts.
2nd for Surewood Fir!
Third
fir -Surewood
cedar-Wapiti
I use both and both are excellent, just a matter of preference.
Ray nailed it!
Ray is correct, I am pleased with them both.
Surewood
Quote from: Ray Lyon on June 12, 2018, 08:02:00 AM
fir -Surewood
cedar-Wapiti
I use both and both are excellent, just a matter of preference.
^^This
Yup, Surewood or Wapiti for fir, Wapiti for cedar.
How would you compare the spine of the surewood vs the wapiti? Are they the same in your experience? Thinking of trying some cedar to lighten my arrow setup slightly
Not sure what you mean about comparing spine... both places give you a well matched set within your chosen spine group.
I always call or email to see what weight range is on hand for a given spine; different sets of the same spine will vary considerably for weight. I get the lightest end of firs to keep my arrow weight reasonable, and sometimes nobody has the weights I need, in which case I look for spruce.
Same will go for cedar, so you might want to figure out what shaft weight you need to get your finished arrows where you want 'em for weight.
for my Douglas Fir I would not go anywhere other than Surewood shafts...or an arrowsmith that used same.
Quote from: Machino on June 12, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
How would you compare the spine of the surewood vs the wapiti? Are they the same in your experience? Thinking of trying some cedar to lighten my arrow setup slightly
Spine is accurate between these two vendors. It might be just me, but I find with the heavier overall shaft weights of fir over cedar cause me to use a few pounds heavier spine in fir over cedar. Nothing scientific here other than maybe the bow is a little more efficient pushing the 75-100 grains more in overall arrow weight I get with fir. I use an Ace spine tester and carefully hand spine all my shafts rotating until I find the stiffest point on the shaft but also rotate back to the spot with the most common spine number within the group and align nock accordingly. Probably a little overkill but I enjoy the process.
Would anyone know where to buy footed wood shafts? I was unable to find the option on Wapiti or Surewood. My father had a dozen back in the day and I've been shopping around trying to find them.
Thanks,
Clint
You can get footed wood shafts from "The Footed Shaft." They have a website.
Keep in mind what Slowboe said. Also what Ray said. If you increase the physical weight of the shaft compared to the arrows you're shooting now, (by a fair amount, say 100 grains or so) you'll need to go up in spine a little. On the other hand, if you've never shot wood before, and you're starting from scratch, let the vendor help you decide on spine and weight.
I would only buy my wood shafts at RMSG as they are the only company to my knowledge that actually matches spine to a reasonable degree.
I think even RMSG would disagree with that statement.
The only way to really be sure is to spine check and sort them yourself.
I made a home made spine checker that while crude, is relative to it's own settings and shows some pretty wild spine swings withing supposedly spine-matched dozens. I generally separate by spine in half-dozen groups and weight match those in threes.
Just received some spruce in the mail from raptor archery. In two dozen there are some that will be dedicated stumpers but overall they look very good. Excited to see what dropping 70gr from DFir shafts does to my flight.
Quote from: nek4me on June 29, 2018, 12:15:39 PM
I think even RMSG would disagree with that statement.
Their arrows are matched in spine to a 2# variance. Buy yours where you want but be prepared to buy a hundred shafts and spine them yourself for a truly matched set.