Looking to see pictures of your ASL's. Along with a description of the maker, model, woods, grip shape, etc. I have never shot a Hill style bow...but it is my next purchase.
I know we have the big long Hill bow thread...but I was hoping to see just the pics in one thread.
Thanks
Howard Hill Tembo with a walnut riser and straight grip:
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Jet Bison with a maple riser and slight dish grip:
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You can never go wrong with a Howard Hill bow, but I'll be using my Jet for turkeys this Spring.
Tom Parsons "Traditions Longbow" Bolivian Rosewood handle, alternating limb lamination of Bamboo and Black Walnut, chocolate glass back and grey glass belly, my favorite ASL.
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OH Tater........that's a nice one. :thumbsup:
My own build. Bocote riser, green back black belly.
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68", 41# @ 28"
Watching this one. My next build will most likely be ASL
Monterey- maple cores or boo ? Love the contrast with colored glass.
Nice bows fellas! Any JD Berry's out there?
From top to bottom, Shrew Hill 68" 48#@28", Kim Sha Traditions 64" 49#@28", Whippenstick Classic 66" 55#@28", and Todd Henck 68" 58#@28".[attachment=1] All have bamboo cores.
And my personal favorite, John Schulz American Longbow "The Favorite" 66" 63#@27".[attachment=1][attachment=2][attachment=3]
My oh my James! That Schulz is gorgeous!!
This one is a 66" 52# @ 28" JD Berry Morningstar. A nice shooting bow with no noticable handshock, at least to me.
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I don't know what the wood is but it is a reverse handle. It shoots very nicely and seems to have good performance. It has red glass on the back and grey on the belly. I didn't care for the red so I customized it.
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Here are a couple pics of mine. Both are made by Craig at HHA. One is a Limited Edition Black Mamba and the other is a Halfbreed. I have a JD Berry Northstar on order. Really like the Hill style bows. Ken
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I think the best bang for your buck is gonna be a Two Tracks Echo. Chuck makes a great hill style.
Sunset Hill
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David Miller, all bamboo no glass
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Northern Mist Superior,66" @50DL.
why "ASL" ???
howard called them "AFL" - American Flat Longbow - copied every bit the same as an english ELB just with a flat limb cross section instead of the carved engish "D".
[attachment=1,msg2794404] My Belcher American. 68" long, 45@28. Riser is myrtle, core is bamboo with green glass back and white belly.
Hill coined the term American semi-logbow. The following passage is taken from Hunting the hard Way p. 91.
"There are three distinct types of bows, the straight-end longbow, the short flat bow, and the composite or self recurve bow. Besides these main types there are many bastard designs that may have some feature of one or all of the other types. Of all the varying designs and combinations of features there has been only one bow developed in modern times that makes a better bunting bow than the conventional English longbow, and that is the American semi-longbow.
This modern type is not quite so long as its English prototype, but is a little wider and considerably flatter. At that, the American semi-long is not so flat as the American Indian short bow, and many times bowyers make the semi-long bow with recurved ends. However, the recurved ends make it too sensitive for a good hunting weapon."
Thank you Orion for clearing that up once and for all :notworthy:
Quote from: Orion on April 27, 2018, 10:11:29 AM
Hill coined the term American semi-logbow. The following passage is taken from Hunting the hard Way p. 91.
"There are three distinct types of bows, the straight-end longbow, the short flat bow, and the composite or self recurve bow. Besides these main types there are many bastard designs that may have some feature of one or all of the other types. Of all the varying designs and combinations of features there has been only one bow developed in modern times that makes a better bunting bow than the conventional English longbow, and that is the American semi-longbow.
This modern type is not quite so long as its English prototype, but is a little wider and considerably flatter. At that, the American semi-long is not so flat as the American Indian short bow, and many times bowyers make the semi-long bow with recurved ends. However, the recurved ends make it too sensitive for a good hunting weapon."
yup, checked my copy, yer absolutely right! howard labeled it as an ASL. a dubious name because there's nothing "semi" about it with regards to its parentage, the ELB.
it was l.e. stemmler and others that called it what it really is, a flat longbow. the differences 'tween an AFL and an ELB is the flat limb versus the "D" shaped ELB belly, and that the AFL has a cut in sight window. it's all good.
on second thought, no, it's not all that good with me. :nono:
in deference to ol' howard, the ASL moniker does the bow, his creation, his interpretation of the ELB, an injustice. there's nothing at all "semi" about a howard hill longbow. "semi" indicates "half" and there's nothing that's half about an AFL. it's just a flattened ELB with a sight window, no more or less, and certainly not half of an ELB in any way of thinking. and without the tonkin cane lam backing, it's not what he spent years in designing, for it was that marriage of hardwood and flattened special cane that made the sought-after bow it is today. nor could the bow have any other limb configuration other than backset (string follow), straight, or forward set (reflex). there, now at least i for one feel better, and YMMV. :saywhat: :)
anyhoo, some real nice bows i'm seeing in this thread! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Rob you just can't let it go, :deadhorse:
Quote from: longrifle on April 28, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
Rob you just can't let it go, :deadhorse:
nope, nothing to let go of 'cept the bowstring on my AFL hill tembo. :bigsmyl:
Quote from: goobersan on April 26, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
Watching this one. My next build will most likely be ASL
Monterey- maple cores or boo ? Love the contrast with colored glass.
This one is maple cored. I'm thinking to do bamboo on one later this midsummer in time for fall seasons.
Hey Rob, what if Howard took his half out of the middle? :biglaugh:
Anyway, I got to sneak out while my boys were napping. More pics:
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There's some beauties in this thread guys! Keep em coming!
Quote from: longrifle on April 28, 2018, 01:14:32 PM
Rob you just can't let it go, :deadhorse:
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66" 51#@28 Northern Mist Whisper. My go to bow.
Here's another success pic with a reverse handle ASL.
The bow is one of my own creations.
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Wow John! I had to do a double take your bow looks so much like my Whisper. Great job. :clapper:
Sitting in my Hidden Hunter blind last fall with my 66" David Miller bow
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Nice picture. Do you still hunt with Blue Duck?