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Title: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:17:26 PM
Hey folks,
when " googling", random  trad archery related stuff that pops up in mind, usually the first threads that pop up in google are from this site. Yet, when I click on the link, instead of taking me to that specific subject, it takes me to Tradgang's home page. What am I missing out? :dunno:
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Terry Green on April 02, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
 If you're going from a bookmark bookmarks won't work anymore please tell us if you're going from a bookmark
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Pat Ct on April 02, 2018, 06:35:44 PM
Yep, same here... Straight from Google, not bookmarked or favorites, just typing in anything into Google's search bar.  Before, it used to redirect to the specific page but now it just shows TradGang Homepage.  No big deal, just thought I'd chime in.  Congrats and thanks to all that made the switch possible!!
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:36:15 PM
Nope. I just googled " traditional bow hospital" since I have an old bow that I want the weight reduced. As we speak, I am sitting on my desk, on my laptop. The 5th or 6th result down the line, was a small list of old threads from Tradgang. When I hit one of them , ..nothing... It will take me to Tradgangs home page. It has been like that for me for a few days. Same thing from my cellphone.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:37:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Ct on April 02, 2018, 06:35:44 PM
Yep, same here... Straight from Google, not bookmarked or favorites, just typing in anything into Google's search bar.  Before, it used to redirect to the specific page but now it just shows TradGang Homepage.  No big deal, just thought I'd chime in.  Congrats and thanks to all that made the switch possible!!

UHH? no big deal? No offence mate, but there is a treasure of knowledge accumulated in this site. Whats the purpose if we can't access it?
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2018, 06:43:41 PM
 Old threads on Google will not come up because they are from the old software site...

And the old site is not in service anymore.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:49:09 PM
Quote from: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2018, 06:43:41 PM
Old threads on Google will not come up because they are from the old software site...

And the old site is not in service anymore.

That's funny. So moderators and owners yall cool with it? You do realise that even in the search function of this new site old threads won't pull up right?
Yes, this is awesome :clapper:
And fyi, I just contributed my 30$ in this site, I am not trying to catch a free ride. I myself, believe have made small contributions in this site over the years. Nice to see all this knowledge go down the drain.. But hey! The new layout looks Good! Hooray!!!
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2018, 07:09:14 PM
That could be possible, or maybe you can't find them.

You need to realise the conversion from the old software to this new software was not an easy thing to do.

Rob, and Ruben worked their tails off to do the best they could with what was possible.

Not all software programs are compatible..

Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Pat Ct on April 02, 2018, 07:24:36 PM
Quote from: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:37:50 PM
Quote from: Pat Ct on April 02, 2018, 06:35:44 PM
Yep, same here... Straight from Google, not bookmarked or favorites, just typing in anything into Google's search bar.  Before, it used to redirect to the specific page but now it just shows TradGang Homepage.  No big deal, just thought I'd chime in.  Congrats and thanks to all that made the switch possible!!

UHH? no big deal? No offence mate, but there is a treasure of knowledge accumulated in this site. Whats the purpose if we can't access it?

No offense taken, but you should really take into account the work that went into this endeavor.  Any kind of "move" of such characteristics is bound to have some issues at first and I think we should all have a little patience and understanding.   Cheers!  Pat.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 02, 2018, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: el greco on April 02, 2018, 06:17:26 PM
Hey folks,
when " googling", random  trad archery related stuff that pops up in mind, usually the first threads that pop up in google are from this site. Yet, when I click on the link, instead of taking me to that specific subject, it takes me to Tradgang's home page. What am I missing out? :dunno:

1. any links to the old site URLs will take you nowhere in a hurry, because as already mentioned, they are no longer

2. this new forum is on a new server that does NOT have the tradgang.com address!  it is tradgang.net for now but will eventually become tradgang.com at a future date.  google will need to harvest tradgang.net in order for google searches to pick up tradgang.com searches.

3. what topic are you searching out and didja do a search here?


Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Terry Green on April 02, 2018, 08:04:24 PM
 if you don't mind I'd like for you to give us a chance to look into it... that was the whole reason for the conversion was to move all the threads over ...we could just started over and not taken 9 months to do this... but I'd appreciate you giving us a chance to look into this without jumping down our throat if you don't mind... I had no idea because it was working earlier let us see what we can do okay?

I can assure you of one thing there's nobody going to be upset more than me about it if they're lost okay I can promise you that you're nowhere near as upset as me if they're gone cuz that was the whole purpose of all this work we did ....so sit back and chill for a minute
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Terry Green on April 02, 2018, 08:13:25 PM
I just pulled up hard-earned trophy a story about a hog got killed in 2009 evidently they're still here I'll check some more later
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: Terry Green on April 02, 2018, 08:04:24 PM
if you don't mind I'd like for you to give us a chance to look into it that... was the whole reason for the conversion was to move all the threads over ...we could just start it over and not taken 9 months to do this but I'd appreciate you giving us a chance to look into this without jumping down our throat if you don't mind... I had no idea because it was working earlier let us see what we can do okay?

I can assure you of one thing there's nobody going to be upset more than me about it if they're lost okay I can promise you that you're nowhere near as upset as me if they're gone cuz that was the whole purpose of all this work we did ....so sit back and chill for a minute

Thanks Terry.
I feel better with your answer. FYI, the search function on the site doesnt work (at least for me ) either.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: el greco on April 02, 2018, 08:38:02 PM
Nevermind. Tried again the search function here, this time it worked.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
 :campfire: :thumbsup: :archer2:
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Coach Jones on April 02, 2018, 09:44:41 PM
Do a google search and it won't come up when you click on it.  However, just highlight and copy the thread title when it comes up.  Then go to trad gang pull up the search feature and paste in the thread title.  Then you have it.  Works like a charm.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 02, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
^5 Jeff..................
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 02, 2018, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: el greco on April 02, 2018, 08:38:02 PM
Nevermind. Tried again the search function here, this time it worked.

well, wonders will never cease, will they?  amazing.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: LBR on April 03, 2018, 12:11:17 AM
The string thread I started that was still ongoing seems to have disappeared along with several more that bit the dust along with it.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: azhunter on April 03, 2018, 12:21:39 AM
I have noticed the same with my computer and also my iPad on the new site. When I do a google search and click on a former TradGang topic it only brings me to the home page. I was hoping this would work in the future. None of us realize how much effort went into putting together the new site. It must be kinda overwhelming I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 03, 2018, 06:02:26 AM
Quote from: azhunter on April 03, 2018, 12:21:39 AM
.... None of us realize how much effort went into putting together the new site. It must be kinda overwhelming I'd imagine.

you have no idea what we went through to be where we are today.  not a clue.  and that's ok.

this move has been at least a TEN YEAR quest, with a box car load of work and money invested in making it happen as best as it can be.

lemme put it to y'all this way - if we had to lose ALL the past threads in order to leave the old campsite, and start anew again, we would be FORCED to do so.

that's how bad things were.  we had no choice, it was either move or literally "die".

yes, it's nice to have a scrap book of past threads to look back on - in fact. it's way better'n nice, it's important.

we brought over tens of thousands of threads and millions of posts.  in fact, we culled out as many old threads that we felt were more dead weight than useful, in order to lighten the load for the tough trip ahead. 

we did the best we could, and the best will just hafta be good enuf.

let's all start making more good memories and build that new trad gang campfire book.  :campfire: 
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 03, 2018, 06:07:03 AM
Quote from: LBR on April 03, 2018, 12:11:17 AM
The string thread I started that was still ongoing seems to have disappeared along with several more that bit the dust along with it.

WHAT is the thread's title?

DIDJA do a search for it?

WHEN didja start the thread?

IF the thread, IF ANY THREAD, was started to prior to march 18th, it would never make it over.

dittos for any REPLIES to threads after march 18th - the threads would transition over, the new replies would not.

is it any of these string threads?

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Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: LBR on April 03, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
Not those.  Think "interesting" was in the title.  Don't recall the date or exact title.  I searched for it a few times.  It was the last one I'd started, was up to 4 pages or so, was still active when the move started.

Got our NASP state championship today.  Won our 5th consecutive North Half title last week, going for our 5th consecutive State title today.  I'll try looking for it again later.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Terry Green on April 03, 2018, 08:08:09 AM
El Greco I thought you were searching meaning the Google browser I didn't know you weren't searching on tradgang that's your problem use the search feature on tradgang that's why it's there so you can search Tradgang
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Bvas on April 03, 2018, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: LBR on April 03, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
Not those.  Think "interesting" was in the title.  Don't recall the date or exact title.  I searched for it a few times.  It was the last one I'd started, was up to 4 pages or so, was still active when the move started.

Got our NASP state championship today.  Won our 5th consecutive North Half title last week, going for our 5th consecutive State title today.  I'll try looking for it again later.
I think that thread was started during the conversion. I was following it closely cuz I knew the info would be lost in the conversion.
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Roy from Pa on April 03, 2018, 10:31:57 AM
Was that the thread about different type string materials and strand count numbers and the testing for arrow speed?
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Macatawa on April 03, 2018, 11:52:11 AM
Quote from: Bvas on April 03, 2018, 10:19:05 AM
Quote from: LBR on April 03, 2018, 07:18:56 AM
Not those.  Think "interesting" was in the title.  Don't recall the date or exact title.  I searched for it a few times.  It was the last one I'd started, was up to 4 pages or so, was still active when the move started.

Got our NASP state championship today.  Won our 5th consecutive North Half title last week, going for our 5th consecutive State title today.  I'll try looking for it again later.
I think that thread was started during the conversion. I was following it closely cuz I knew the info would be lost in the conversion.



Brad, I believe you're correct on that thread being started during the pre-move / move frenzy.  I was literally glued to the PowWow at the time the conversion started .  I visited that one a few times that week....interesting
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Ruben on April 03, 2018, 11:53:01 AM
Searching on this site should work fine.

For the people that are trying with a google search.
What google and other search engines ( so called spiders) do is visit a site as a guest ( not logged in)and do what is a crawl of the site indexing keywords and phrases.
They only do a few at a time.
Come back later and index some more.

The old site was up for many many years so all the search engines had a chance to index the complete site less what they can't access.

Now today we have changed the path and all the topics and posts have new paths.
This forum is a net new software program using PHP and mysql database instead of cgi and text file based.
So it was required to change the path.

So just like it took a long time for all the search engines to index the old site it will take a while to re-index the new forum.

For a while  it may show old and new links for the same posts when you google search but eventually it will only show links for the new site. It takes a while to index all the text in 2.8 million posts.

So in the interim while a google search may not work well, You also have many new features and performance gains using the new forum now.

I hope that was clear as mud!
Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: Macatawa on April 03, 2018, 11:55:35 AM
Quote from: Ruben on April 03, 2018, 11:53:01 AM
Searching on this site should work fine.

For the people that are trying with a google search.
What google and other search engines ( so called spiders) do is visit a site as a guest ( not logged in)and do what is a crawl of the site indexing keywords and phrases.
They only do a few at a time.
Come back later and index some more.

The old site was up for many many years so all the search engines had a chance to index the complete site less what they can't access.

Now today we have changed the path and all the topics and posts have new paths.
This forum is a net new software program using PHP and mysql database instead of cgi and text file based.
So it was required to change the path.

So just like it took a long time for all the search engines to index the old site it will take a while to re-index the new forum.

For a while  it may show old and new links for the same posts when you google search but eventually it will only show links for the new site. It takes a while to index all the text in 2.8 million posts.

So in the interim while a google search may not work well, You also have many new features and performance gains using the new forum now.

I hope that was clear as mud!
Thanks Ruben...

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Title: Re: Old threads will not come up on google?
Post by: LBR on April 04, 2018, 01:16:28 PM
QuoteWas that the thread about different type string materials and strand count numbers and the testing for arrow speed?

That was it.  Bad timing I reckon.  The good news is it will come up again sooner or later, and I'm constantly studying this stuff and getting more information.

Being a string nerd, this stuff fascinates me.  Being a little bit OCD, all the misinformation about strings and string materials that gets touted as "fact" drives me nuts.  I've said it before and I'll say it again...the www is the best and worst thing to ever happen for information.