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Main Boards => The Bowyer's Bench => Topic started by: Wolftrail on February 18, 2018, 02:54:00 PM

Title: Arrow Speed
Post by: Wolftrail on February 18, 2018, 02:54:00 PM
I hear so much stuff about speed it makes ones head spin.
A lot of us including me shoot wood arrows, they will bend more compared to carbon, glass or otherwise.  So if one uses B-50 string is a little stretch that big of a deal.  I use B-50.  Building wood bows has more implications in regards to speed like reflex, wood material etc.etc....... that affect speed more so than using B-50.

Why does a 35# bow shoot the same as a 45# bow 'point on' at 20 yards.  Using the same string and the same arrows spined at 45#.

And whats a couple FPS loss anyway.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: monterey on February 18, 2018, 03:47:00 PM
Oh, agree for sure.  It's educational though to chrono your builds to compare the results of tweaks and design changes.

When it's hunt time, for the last 7 years I've carried an ASL that shoots a 650 grain arrow at 138fps.  Don't ask how that works cause I haven't loosed an arrow at a big game animal in 8 years.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Cause the 35 pounder was designed right and the 45 pounder was not.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 18, 2018, 04:41:00 PM
I have bows that shoot any where from 150-190s fps I would hunt with any of them but with wood bows when I switched from B50 to FF I could lower the brace height with out hitting my wrist I agree with Monterey arrow speed is great for keeping track of design efficiency, but can be disappointing when a design doesn't live up to what you thought.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: TradBowyer on February 18, 2018, 04:55:00 PM
the bowyers rule: if you really like the way the bow shoots don't chrono it

for whitetail and similar game speed isn't too important to a degree. where it comes in handy for me is elk hunting. if I can setup a lower poundage bow to perform the same as a heavier bow then that's a bonus and why I care about speed in that situation
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: BMorv on February 19, 2018, 03:38:00 PM
It is what it is.  FF will improve your speed some vs B-50.  I like the extra speed and the feel of FF that's why I use it.  
If you like the way B-50 feels, and don't care about a few fps then keep using it.  
The last bow I made came in at 38 lbs after final sanding and shoots 158 fps w/ about a 500 grain arrow.  It blows by my 45 lb, 47 lb, and 51 lb bows with the same arrow, and it draws smoother.  So it basically obsoletes those 3 bows.  It's a lot easier to shoot all day and it shoots flatter.  
Design and construction makes the biggest difference.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: Wolftrail on February 19, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Cause the 35 pounder was designed right and the 45 pounder was not.
Some days its better to stay in bed.  I should know that answer.

QuoteOriginally posted by TradBowyer:
the bowyers rule: if you really like the way the bow shoots don't chrono it
I'll drink to that.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: fujimo on February 19, 2018, 08:17:00 PM
you make me chuckle wolfman.   :)    :campfire:    
of course Benton, yer gonna have to show us pics of the different bows.   :D
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: BMorv on February 20, 2018, 09:20:00 AM
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Those are the offenders.  Nothing special, just was trying to prove the point that good design, construction, and tiller make the biggest difference in speed.
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: fujimo on February 20, 2018, 09:28:00 AM
all 3 beautiful bows- nice!!
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: BMorv on February 20, 2018, 09:39:00 AM
I would say you can have them, but I'm pretty sure you would break them with your crazy draw length..
Title: Re: Arrow Speed
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 20, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
Nice bows Bmorv , I have a friend that hunts with short draw native style bows he feels the same way if the bow shoots nice and will hit 150 fps 10 gpp he hunts with it  ,  90 % to me is how the bow shoots  !  I have a 62 in. Mohegan style Hickory/ sinew  that is really a docile bow it only does 155 fps @45 lb with b50 but it shoots so nice with b50 & quit I never bothered to change to FF.