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Title: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: PopeandYoung_51 on February 12, 2018, 11:59:00 PM
Back to Belly

.040 4 ply woven carbon, boo lam. riser, boo lam, Stabil-Kore, .030 Gordon'uni carbon sanded one side.

I'm mostly concerned about the Uni Carbon to Stabil-Kore to boo transition on the belly.

The whole belly of my riser is straight.

Thank you!!!
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: mikkekeswick on February 13, 2018, 02:51:00 AM
Yes it will work.
Even when I want a woven face to my carbon lams I still make the majority of thickness from uni-directional. It is of course much stronger than full woven lams.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: Dale in Pa on February 13, 2018, 09:12:00 AM
Never built one, but talked to some bowyers and was told to put the uni carbon on the back, and the weave on the belly side.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 13, 2018, 12:59:00 PM
Put the Stabil-Kore between the boo lams. I'm assuming this is a recurve. If it is a longbow, no need for the Stabil-Kore. Even if you go with your stack, it should glue fine. The Stabil-Kore is very permeable.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: BrushWolf on February 14, 2018, 07:59:00 AM
Talked to OMC awhile back they sell a 4ply carbon  for the back and 2ply for the belly. They say to put a.030 glass under the belly carbon. A person could use uni- weft there for the glass.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: Dale in Pa on February 16, 2018, 08:42:00 AM
BrushWolf, Did you mean put the .030 glass over the belly carbon? I can think of no possible reason for putting it under the carbon.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: BrushWolf on February 16, 2018, 08:56:00 AM
2-Ply - A .018 thickness designed specifically for placement on the belly of the bow. It is made as an outside layer. A .030  piece of fiberglass sanded on both sides is needed to be placed underneath the carbon.

That's copied straight for there web site. Don't know much otherwise. When I talked to them I was more interested in just putting the 4 ply on the back of the bow. Maybe it's just for looks.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: Dale in Pa on February 16, 2018, 09:27:00 AM
You're right, just went to there website and read it. Gonna have to call and talk to them as I've been wanting to build a carbon LB.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 21, 2018, 02:22:00 PM
Dale, a friend and I have made a bunch of double carbon longbows with Uni on both sides. They have held up just fine including several elk hunts and bad treatment.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: Dale in Pa on February 22, 2018, 12:13:00 PM
That's good to know beachbowhunter. I was told by a pretty reliable source that the belly carbon had to be covered by glass or it would explode. Did you use Gordon's uni carbon?
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: PopeandYoung_51 on February 22, 2018, 02:15:00 PM
Thanks for all the info guys! It didn't hold up though.
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 22, 2018, 07:29:00 PM
Dale, I believe so. Mostly got it from Dale Stahl.

Coltin, what happened?
Title: Re: Do you think this carbon layup will hold together?
Post by: PopeandYoung_51 on February 22, 2018, 10:50:00 PM
She gave out a couple inches up from the fadeout.  I'm not exactly sure who gave out first, almost think the back even tho one would think it should be the belly. I did get a few arrows out of it and MAN did that thing rip an arrow; I could barely get em out of the Glen Del buck! And the bow was supper dead in the hand. Time to save up for another experiment.   :thumbsup: