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Title: c'mon Kenny
Post by: fujimo on February 11, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
lets see some pics- cant contain my excitement any longer!!
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: kennym on February 11, 2018, 12:37:00 PM
Overlay is drying.....
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 11, 2018, 12:46:00 PM
I think I know what it looks like   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: fujimo on February 11, 2018, 12:49:00 PM
blah blah blah- excuses!!!    :D
cant wait to see it!
the FB pic looks awesome
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 11, 2018, 12:51:00 PM
I think I know what it looks like   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: kennym on February 11, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
Here ya go, but you have seen already...

The forward handle revisited, started completely over with form, think I killed it this time. This is what I wanted it to look like!!   :bigsmyl:  

(http://i.imgur.com/alN3M3G.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ydj31kU.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/EY7iTqD.jpg)
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Post by: Trenton G. on February 11, 2018, 10:56:00 PM
Nice! Will those plans be available on your website at some point?
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: fujimo on February 11, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
now that last pic is the kicker   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  
that's awesome
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Post by: kennym on February 11, 2018, 11:14:00 PM
I have to do some testing first before making a plan on it. See what draw length it will handle and if it performs decent.

Then draw up plan and get printed. So it will be a bit if it checks out.
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2018, 04:40:00 AM
Sweet.
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Post by: KenH on February 12, 2018, 06:54:00 AM
The first two photos remind me of the ancient Egyptian Angular bow.  

I prefer it that way, without all the palm-filling ergonomic stuff on the belly side.  It should work just fine without that stuff, which would make me want to buy such a bow.  

What's the length and draw weight going to end up?
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 12, 2018, 08:17:00 AM
Im really,really  liking that one kenny let us know how it works out, Im down for plans & templet ?
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Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 10:11:00 AM
It is 54.35 @28"  and 60" ntn

Ran her thru chrony , think it is a keeper

Here is 28" draw
Shot thru chrony at 28" measured on shooting machine

545 grain arrow -10.03 gpp - 186 FPS

454 grain arrow - 8.35 gpp - 194 FPS

Using fingers release will lose 4-5 FPS
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 12, 2018, 10:32:00 AM
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Post by: Bvas on February 12, 2018, 10:53:00 AM
What's your BH on that one Kenny?
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Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 10:56:00 AM
Brace with shop string is 7.25 , felt ok shooting but I'm pretty insensitive , or so I've been told....

Shot more on machine than with fingers too. Got to get grip finished roughing in and some arrows that are actually tuned to it.
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: fujimo on February 12, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
wow- thats awesome- how does that compare to your std bow Kenny.
seems to me its a bit faster!!
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 12:45:00 PM
I think it is pretty much same as the shorter bow and the 64" modified, all running in mid 180s with what I call a hunting weight arrow .
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 12, 2018, 01:03:00 PM
But I would bet this one has a better string angle for its length I like the Egyptian compsite bow brace profile look ,that is a slick looking bow kenny !
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: fujimo on February 12, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
what do you call the "64" modified"?
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Post by: C. Johnson on February 12, 2018, 02:43:00 PM
That looks epic cool Kenny.  Love it!
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Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 03:31:00 PM
I built a bow some time back on the 64" plan and added 1" more reflex in the last  11" . Made 5fps and 5 more lb with same stack .
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Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
I intended to do a DFC but sanded it and sprayed it so it has to wait...

Thanks, guys!!
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 12, 2018, 04:17:00 PM
That is a beauty Kenny!!!    :notworthy:  
Dave.
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Post by: Dannon on February 12, 2018, 06:37:00 PM
Looking good! Love the forward handle bows!
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Post by: kennym on February 12, 2018, 09:06:00 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/vlpMc9c.jpg)
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 12, 2018, 09:15:00 PM
You gotta love zebra wood!
  :thumbsup:    :archer:    
Dave.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2018, 09:33:00 PM
Purty nice....
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2018, 10:36:00 PM
I knew thats what it looked like.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: fujimo on February 13, 2018, 01:23:00 AM
WOW!!!
that is awesome   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 14, 2018, 07:04:00 AM
DFC ?
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 14, 2018, 07:49:00 AM
Draw force curves..

It's a fancy chart them gwass boys play wif..   :)
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 14, 2018, 08:17:00 AM
Thanks Roy I was trying to tell him Im anxiously awaiting it ...lol I bet with those sweeped back limbs its good at long draws  for a 60 in. bow ?
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 14, 2018, 08:37:00 AM
It's probably ok.. I dunno.  :)
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Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 09:24:00 AM
Wasn't there a printable chart somewhere? I can't find it.....
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 14, 2018, 10:00:00 AM
  (http://i.imgur.com/448DNgG.jpg) (https://imgur.com/448DNgG)
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 14, 2018, 10:48:00 AM
Ok so here is a question  is that chart applicable to Kennys current bow ?  Because  it looks like it barely is starting to stack at 31 in. draw which is great but Im curious of what effect if any  the sweeped back style limbs have on string angle , finger pinch with shorter bows doesent bother me much I have bows 62 in. to 70 in. but would like to build a 60 in. bow after the 64 in. is done I have always had a fascination with short bows for tight blind hunting ?
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Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 11:12:00 AM
I'll find some graph paper..... I was hoping there was an easy printable one.
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 14, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
No hurry Kenny just curious !
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Post by: kennym on February 14, 2018, 11:50:00 AM
Ok, I am deciding what to do to the swap victim today.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 14, 2018, 03:03:00 PM
If you have excel in your pc your can make one.
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Post by: monterey on February 14, 2018, 03:31:00 PM
Download a FDC spreadsheet here

http://www.buildyourownbow.com/articles/force-draw-curve-template/

There is a newer version somewhere but I don't know where.

Galen, rest his soul used this one.
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 09:51:00 AM
Bro came over to shoot it yesterday. First shot , he said " man that shoots em hard, they really hit the target hard. "

He liked it a lot but was wanting to know if I could put the extra palm swell on like our hunting bows.... just the grip he likes .
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Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 09:52:00 AM
And I have a dfc chart made but not filled out...  ;)
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Post by: mwosborn on February 18, 2018, 11:40:00 AM
Nice Kenny - I like that style of bow.  I have a design similar, but I think yours is a bit more forward in the handle.  They will zip an arrow.
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 18, 2018, 12:02:00 PM
How fast is it zipping them ????
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 01:10:00 PM
10.03 gpp was 186 on machine, take off 4-5 FPS for fingers
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Post by: Forwardhandle on February 18, 2018, 01:32:00 PM
Sorry I forgot you all ready posted those ,bet it would be in the 190s at my draw !  Above all that its just a really cool looking bow !
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
OK, did the DFC to best I could . Put her on the shooting machine clamped to bench so I could pull steady. Had a marked arrow in inches, clothespin on front to draw til it touched back of bow.

Last couple I had to put a fender washer behind point for a stop as the arrow was only 31" , then found a 32" one and did the same.

Would have been better if I'd had a lovely assistant to watch the marks maybe, but here is what I got.

You tell me if it's good, I've never worried about DFC , only NSQ ....

Nice, smooth,quiet LOL


(http://i.imgur.com/ryxh0bb.jpg)


So it appears no stacking to 32" at least , correct?
Title: Re: c'mon Kenny
Post by: Forwardhandle on February 18, 2018, 03:29:00 PM
I knew that bow would have a flat curve thats awsome barley stacking  at 31 in wow you knocked that one out of the park for a 60 in . Bow
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Post by: rich k on February 18, 2018, 06:20:00 PM
That looks great! Love to make one. Haven't built a bow in a while but this FDC makes me want to get back in it. Thanks, Kenny.
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Post by: rich k on February 18, 2018, 06:23:00 PM
That looks great! Love to make one. Haven't built a bow in a while but this FDC makes me want to get back in it. Thanks, Kenny.
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Post by: monterey on February 18, 2018, 06:34:00 PM
Those are great numbers on speed and the DFC.

A very good design.
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Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 06:43:00 PM
Hmmm, I didn't know what I had, just that I liked it! LOL
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Post by: kennym on February 18, 2018, 09:55:00 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/h2jllRJ.jpg)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
Nice, Kenny.
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Post by: John Malone on February 18, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
I'm gonna mess around and buy one of them one day.
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Post by: fujimo on February 18, 2018, 11:05:00 PM
that is awesome- exactly what i need for my 31.5" draw.
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Post by: mwosborn on February 18, 2018, 11:36:00 PM
I like the looks of that one Kenny.  How long is your riser?  It looks like a pretty tight radius on the front of the riser.  Any trouble getting the lam to bend in the form?

I snapped a quick picture of one of mine - similar shape at brace - you definitely have a more forward handle.

(https://i.imgur.com/dEgXXtT.jpg)
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Post by: Pago on February 19, 2018, 03:00:00 AM
Really great Kenny!
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Post by: kennym on February 19, 2018, 11:31:00 AM
Thanks guys, Mitch , no probs , make my scarf joints on lams pretty long.
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Post by: mwosborn on February 19, 2018, 05:28:00 PM
Thanks Kenny - I need to work on that - I have popped a few loose when put under the riser and start clamping them down.
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Post by: kennym on February 19, 2018, 05:36:00 PM
Well, a .030 veneer has a joint 1/4" long. I don't know the angle, just clamp the jig on sander and grind em! LOL
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Post by: hunting badger on March 08, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
I like it Kenny!! When are the plans going to be available??