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Title: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on February 28, 2015, 12:47:00 PM
So apparently the 14" Professional woodworkers bandsaw from Harbor  Freight does not like cutting osage. First my on/off switch burned up last week, then last night while trying to cut out the profile on another piece I think I killed the motor. It was only a 3/4 hp. and it was belt driven (2 belt setup). So I'm looking at the Grizzly Bandsaws, and I am thinking about getting their GO555x 14" extreme series bandsaw and adding a riser kit so I can get 12" of cutting height. Or for the same money (actually cheaper, because it does not need the riser kit) they have their 17" 2hp. anniversary model.
What do you all think?
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: timbermoose on February 28, 2015, 12:49:00 PM
17" might as well go all out. Soon as I win the lottery, my new bow shop will be a showroom for grizzly tools.  :)
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: fujimo on February 28, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
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sorry fella!!!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 28, 2015, 02:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by timbermoose:
17" might as well go all out. Soon as I win the lottery, my new bow shop will be a showroom for grizzly tools.   :)  
X2
I have a 19 inch Grizzly and I love it.
Dave.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Pat B on February 28, 2015, 02:36:00 PM
I have a 14" Grizzly with a 1hp and it does all I ask of it. I make selfbows, preferably osage.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Robertfishes on February 28, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
I was lucky and found a used but new...iron wheel 2hp 16" grizzly 1073 on C=list. It is pretty nice and cuts well. it could be more saw than I need but its enough saw for everything I am currently doing...I still have and use a $50 1980's  12" 1/2hp Craftsman bandsaw, it has a carbide blade for glass work. I will replace the 12" Craftsman with a 14" Grizzly when it pukes..
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 28, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B:
I have a 14" Grizzly with a 1hp and it does all I ask of it. I make selfbows, preferably osage.
Same here. Just a guess? Id say I've ran near 70-80 staves through mine. Plus a bunch of half logs. Not to mention oodles of odd ball cuts and such. Its still like new. Keeping a sharp blade on helps with motor and bearing labor.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on February 28, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
I just wanna make sure I have the power and cut clearence to make sure I can resaw some logs if I want. I have some that would make good boards.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: canopyboy on February 28, 2015, 04:20:00 PM
Suggest stepping up to a grizzly. I'm not a fan of HF unless it's for a certain task and cheaper than a rental. They just don't last under real use IMO.  If you want to do any resawing, I suggest as much power as you can afford. Remember that not all Chinese hp ratings are equal.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 28, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
This one....

http://www.grizzly.com/products/17-2-HP-Bandsaw-Anniversary-Edition/G0513ANV
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on February 28, 2015, 04:45:00 PM
I'm thinking this one with the riser kit, it would pretty much be the same as the one above, but it would have the cast iron trundles. with my understanding would be better.
http://grizzly14-px.rtrk.ca/products/14-Extreme-Series-Bandsaw/G0555X
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on February 28, 2015, 04:47:00 PM
plus the table is actually bigger and comes with the 6" resaw fence
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: kennym on February 28, 2015, 06:21:00 PM
Warren, I had that same saw and sawed literally miles of lams with it. It was very good to me, but I wonder if the added height will keep the same accuracy or if you'd be better off with the 17"?
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: bamboo on February 28, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
the bigger wheel will be easier on blades and you will never regret more horse power-ever!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: koochiepie on February 28, 2015, 07:23:00 PM
I love my Grizzly G0555
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 28, 2015, 09:05:00 PM
I use mine for more than bow building, so bigger is better in my case. My buddy brought over some big pieces of reclaimed doug fir to be ripped down. I put on a 1 1/2 inch blade with frighteningly large teeth and we cut those beams into lumber in no time. I barely felt any resistance. The large capacity and big HP motor allow me to do just about anything I want with that saw. When I have more space, I intend to get my buddy to build me a jig to rip small logs into lumber. At the same time I can put on a small blade and cut tiny little detail parts with ease and accuracy.
Dave.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 02, 2015, 01:15:00 AM
what do you all think about this one? I think it should do everything I need, plus I can pick it up at Woodcrafters less than an hour from my house.
http://www.lagunatools.com/bandsaws/1412-Bandsaw
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: canopyboy on March 02, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
Laguna makes awesome bandsaws and I would consider them a step up from Grizzly and several steps above HF. You will find their bigger models in commercial cabinet and furniture shops. I'm not familiar with that model, but I'd do it if you can swing it. You'll appreciate all of those extras when it comes to precision work. Much easier to tune a saw like that.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 02, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
That's a really nice saw. Huge capacity in a 14 inch saw. I wouldn't spend $100 on a light though.
There are a lot of magnetic work lights out there for a fraction of the cost.
Dave.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Archer Dave on March 02, 2015, 09:32:00 PM
I think the fact it was a Harbor Freight might have been the problem not cutting Osage.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 02, 2015, 11:28:00 PM
This is a tough decision, every time I think I  up my mind, I find another option. I think I have it narrowed down to the Laguna 14/12 or the G0513X2.
http://grizzly14-px.rtrk.ca/products/G0513X2
I can get the bigger Grizzly for the same price as the 14/12, and it comes with cast iron wheels, trunions, and full length cast iron fence with the resaw fence. Plus more horse power. Like we say in the Fire Service " Go big or go home". Kinda leaning towards the grizzly
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: rockkiller on March 02, 2015, 11:58:00 PM
I got the go513x2 not to long ago and haven't put very much through it yet but sure do like it so far.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: skeaterbait on March 03, 2015, 08:30:00 AM
I recently bought a G0555 and was considering the 17". The sales guy told me that unless I plan to do a considerable amount of resawing, the 14" would do everything I need.

However, you mentioned that the 17" would be cheaper when factoring the riser kit.... So, at the same money, I would have gone for the 17"
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Robertfishes on March 03, 2015, 08:45:00 AM
I have the 2015 Grizzly Catalog.. The GO513X2 looks pretty good and is a solid 446 #s..
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Cootling on March 03, 2015, 10:56:00 PM
Check out Woodworking if you want to hear about experiences from a much larger pool of folks.  In particular, I would check customer service reports before buying (!).

I've got the Jet 14" JWBS-14DXPRO, which has a 12" resaw capacity without a riser block and a 1.25 horse motor.  I've been quite pleased.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Cootling on March 03, 2015, 10:57:00 PM
I don't know how that happened...

I meant to say ``Check out woodworking forums...''
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ScottReb on March 06, 2015, 12:57:00 PM
A couple years ago I lucked into a MiniMax MM16, locally on CL.  If you have time it so far above the consumer grade saws.  600# 5 HP motor.  Laguna (not the consumer grade) Agazzani and Hammer are some other Italian made saws.  Just another option.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 09, 2015, 09:25:00 PM
looks like bologna sandwiches and mac and cheese for awhile. I bit the bullet today and it should be here on Thursday.  (http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad129/wdigby71/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-09%20at%209.15.19%20PM_zpstcgzrpwk.png) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/wdigby71/media/Screen%20Shot%202015-03-09%20at%209.15.19%20PM_zpstcgzrpwk.png.html)
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 09, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
:thumbsup:  
Dave.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: michaelschwister on March 10, 2015, 06:09:00 PM
Either will work well.  I would go with the bigger motor and wheels, also a timberwolf 4 tpi hook or skip blade.  I have used a 18" jet with 2 hp I bought new for the past ten years with no trouble
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 15, 2015, 11:24:00 AM
Nothing worse than waiting on a new toy to arrive. Ordered monday and UPS freight says it won't be here until the following Wednesday .
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: macbow on March 15, 2015, 01:32:00 PM
One good thing about living 2 hours from Springfield Mo. Just drove,down and picked it up.

Coarse it was all the wife and I could handle to unload it.
Used my deer hoist to put the top on.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 15, 2015, 03:30:00 PM
macbow, I was half tempted to drive to Springfield and pick it up, My family roots are traced back to Missouri. I have a sister in springfield and my Dad and Grandmaw are in Raytown. I could have made a family re-union out of it and still got my saw faster. lol!!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 17, 2015, 11:18:00 PM
Finally showed up today, Got wire up some 220 in the garage and we are in business .
 (http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad129/wdigby71/IMG_1032_zps3moyifxu.jpg) (http://s928.photobucket.com/user/wdigby71/media/IMG_1032_zps3moyifxu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: canopyboy on March 18, 2015, 12:17:00 AM
Awesome! Congrats.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: bigbob2 on March 18, 2015, 12:30:00 AM
wow that IS nice!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Bowjunkie on March 18, 2015, 05:33:00 AM
Now that's a nice friggin' saw right there!!!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 18, 2015, 05:44:00 AM
Sweet......
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Bowjunkie on March 18, 2015, 08:29:00 AM
I got the big Grizzly catalog in the mail yesterday. Holy CRAP they have some serious equipment in there.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Robertfishes on March 18, 2015, 08:38:00 AM
That one is gonna cut Osage and any other wood like a hot knife thru butter!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2015, 11:36:00 AM
Allright, nice. Bue--.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: canopyboy on March 18, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowjunkie:
I got the big Grizzly catalog in the mail yesterday. Holy CRAP they have some serious equipment in there.
Yep, my wife calls that catalog my porno mag.

I have very little brand loyalty with tools. I usually do my research each time. But for large tools, my shop is starting to look like a mini Grizzly showroom.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: wood carver 2 on March 18, 2015, 05:30:00 PM
I'm up to 3 Grizzlies in my shop and I'm drooling over several more. One at a time!
Dave.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 18, 2015, 07:04:00 PM
Buying power tools is like getting tattoos, once you get one you want another. Got my eye on a thickness sander next. This year was the first year I hunted strictly with a self bow I made. I think I may sell my wheeled bow to cover the cost of it. No sense in it collecting dust. Besides I had way more fun hunting primitive.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: mwosborn on March 18, 2015, 08:25:00 PM
ooooooh  nice saw!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Charlie Hinkel on March 20, 2015, 07:43:00 AM
Nice saw! After seeing your Grizzly, I hate to admit mine is A Craftsman!  It is only 4 years old, what a piece of crap!
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Bowjunkie on March 20, 2015, 08:40:00 AM
Mine is a Craftsman too, an older decent one, and has served me well, but I sure wish I knew about Grizzly tools before I bought it.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 20, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
My band saw is an older craftsman too, about 12 years old. Was the top of the line saw back then.. 14", 1.5 hp, made out of cast iron. Never had a problem with it and it's cut a lot of bow wood and other wood. But today I would buy a grizzly.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: Charlie Hinkel on March 20, 2015, 06:55:00 PM
Craftsman saws are not what they used to be, they changed the design and manufacture them in China now. Mine is only 4 years old and already the blade tensioner bolt is stripped out, they don't sell the 89.5" blades for it at the local Sears for it either. Years ago I did have an old 12" Craftsman from the 70's and was very happy with it! It never let me down. I think I am done with Craftsman power tools.
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: kennym on March 20, 2015, 08:20:00 PM
I have that same Griz saw, love it!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New saw, not gonna lie I'm kinda excited
Post by: ffdiggs on March 22, 2015, 12:48:00 AM
Got it all set up,tuned and put the 3/4 " blade on today and made some saw dust. It cuts great, way better than the 14" saw I killed a couple of weeks ago. Took some small left over hunks of osage and walnut and resawed them into 1/4' pieces to glue together for riser blocks. it was a little pricey but is gonna save me time and get better use of my wood.