Kenny cutting out the bamboo to the bow profile.
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Kenny on the band saw and Jerry on the edge sander prepping his bamboo backing.
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Jerry prepping the bamboo backing, this is his first ever bow build. He is already talking about the next bow, LOL..
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Osage belly lams.
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Kenny running the toothing plane on the bamboo backing.
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Sure was a fun day and a couple beers were had, along with two, 2 foot long hoagies and potato salad... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKa_rKomTY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE5TGjcTTvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSwx80xjTUE
Jerry's first ever glue up.
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Looks like you guys had a good time, and Jerry still have his fingertips intact? Good idea to wear heavy gloves. :) Bue--.
very cool!
great times :)
He didn't lose any skin, but the gloves are missing a couple finger tips.. :) Those gloves never leave the edge sander and are mandatory for anyone using it. I have several pair laying on the window seal behind the sander..
Looks like all ya normally use bamboo for backings. Ever used any quarter sawn hickory for backings?
I keep looking at the bows and something keeps lurking in the back of my head about building one.
QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
He didn't lose any skin, but the gloves are missing a couple finger tips.. :) Those gloves never leave the edge sander and are mandatory for anyone using it. I have several pair laying on the window seal behind the sander..
*Never* wear gloves operating that type of machine. You think you're enforcing a rule for safety, but you're causing a serious snagging hazard. This can result in extremely severe trauma and even directly cause the amputation of the effected extremities. He also should have had his sleeves rolled up and should have been wearing eye protection. The fact that the gloves lost a some fingers means that you and your friend got very lucky. When sanding something that thin, a holding jig or apparatus of some sort should be used for safety. If you where an employer and an OSHA inspector saw that, you would be looking at some massive fines. For your reference, here's a well written shop safety guide that will fill you in on accepted safety regulations, including edge sanders: http://www.baylor.edu/ehs/doc.php/228017.pdf
I'm sorry if it seems like I'm coming down hard on you or being an ******* or something. I'm just trying to help you make it through life with all your parts still attached. At the moment you're basically juggling loaded guns. Please stop.
Edit:
Osha Source:
https://www.osha.gov/Publications/woodworking_hazards/osha3157.html
QuoteProtective gloves are the primary means available for direct hand protection. Extra-long gauntlets or sleeves attached to the gloves can extend protection up the arm. However, the appropriateness of glove use in the woodworking workplace should be carefully reviewed on a task-by-task basis. Gloves should not be worn when operating woodworking equipment due to the potential for getting caught in moving parts.
Heavy leather, metal mesh, or gloves may provide protection against cuts, abrasions, and lacerations, but they can also greatly reduce dexterity, possibly leading to a higher frequency of the mishaps they are intended to protect against. Furthermore, no glove will stand up to direct contact with the cutting surfaces of most of your power equipment. For these reasons, engineering and work-practice controls will be your best bet for addressing the hand and arm hazards posed by cutting and shaping equipment.
When it comes to handling wood finishes, adhesives, equipment cleansing solvents, or any other chemical compounds, you should provide appropriate gloves and make their use mandatory. Chemically resistant gloves are designed as impermeable barriers to prevent absorption of hazardous compounds through the skin of the hands. The most common gloves designed for this purpose are composed of natural rubber or latex,5 butyl rubber, nitrile rubber, plastic, or rubber-like synthetics such as neoprene.
Now that is a party i would like to partake in! What a great shop to work in...glad you guys had a good time building.
Lucky I was busy old coot, I never got an invite.
I sorry Pearly boy....
One time we used hickory, Troy. That's what I intend to do with the hard maple I ordered from you. May try other types of wood in the future also. Long as it's 1/4 sawn.. :)
If I ever make it to PA, I know where I'm going. Looks like a great time.
Looks like a good time for sure!
wassup with jerry drinking pop on the job?
he retiring soon!!??-
must be a Pa thing- all that horse p#* you fellas consume :D
Looks like a blast! We definately want to see the finished bow!!
Geeze, can't wear gloves, can't drink pop, guy might as well start baking cookies. LOL
Hafta fix that third light bulb to bake cookies, Roy! LOL! That did look like a lotta fun! :archer:
Don't burn yourself with the easy bake oven Roy.
He's right about the gloves. Potentially very dangerous. I use a block of wood to put pressure on the lams while using the sander.
A guy I worked with nearly got pulled into a 16 inch jointer because he was wearing a loose sweatshirt.
Dave.
Looks like everyone was had by a good time, Roy.
It's so cold in my basement shop these days that I'm thinking about wearing gloves, too. ;)
Roy just moved to the top of my thumpin list. I did not get an invite either! :mad:
But it looks like a great time.
thats the stuff of memories- good job gettinf more folk into the fold Roy :thumbsup:
wish there were more builders/shooters around here-
can get a little "trad lonely" here :(
QuoteOriginally posted by wood carver 2:
He's right about the gloves. Potentially very dangerous. I use a block of wood to put pressure on the lams while using the sander.
A guy I worked with nearly got pulled into a 16 inch jointer because he was wearing a loose sweatshirt.
Dave.
A block of wood is all it takes! ;) .
I may be new to bow making, but I'm not new to shops. I used to make heavy machinery for a living. Most of that time, I was the guy that made the comparatively small parts from large stock. I have run saws, lathes, drill presses, forklifts, press brakes, a few different types of grinders, and even a laser. All of this was in an industrial capacity for large scale production, so I'm not talking about a few hours here and there. I'm talking about pulling some serious serious time on these machines in both the heat of summer and the cold of winter.
That being said, I never personally witnessed a serious accident because we where careful about that stuff (a couple close calls though). I do know two second hand stories from reliable sources about gloves specifically directly leading to injury though.
One of the old hands at the factory told me about a guy that worked there well before my time. The guy was running a drill press while wearing gloves because he didn't want to get cut by sharp steel shavings (it happens). One day, he got got his gloved hand too close to the bit and got grabbed. Threw him into the wall behind the drill press and he was lucky in that the glove tore out there before it went any further. Even being lucky, the forces involved broke his arm, dislocated his shoulder, and caused severe damage to the tendons and such in his elbow and shoulder. He had to permanently stop doing the work because he no longer had very much function in his arm, even after several surgeries.
The second came from one of the cnc machinists and was something he saw when he was going to trade school. One of his classmates was running a lathe with gloves on because he was too green and didn't know any better. The lathe caught his glove, yanked him off his feet threw him up over and behind the lathe just like something you would see in an old werner brothers cartoon. In this case though, the glove did not give before this students wrist did. It literally tore his hand off of his arm.
All that being said, I really don't have a problem with alcohol in a home shop. The risks there are quite obvious, even to the untrained person, and if they are willing to take those risks that's their call. I wouldn't mix the heavy machinery with alcohol, but once the heavy machinery portion of a build is done... Well, there's still risk there, but it's nowhere near as severe.
I agree entirely. Gloves are a bad idea. I just couldn't work in them anyway.
I was actually gonna say something about the gloves, but Mr. Sanders beat me to it and covered it very well. Working in a steel mill with BIG machinery... you learn quick. No gloves, loose clothing, watches, rings, sleeves rolled up, etc.
There's a machinist sitting beside me right now with fingers crooked and fused in place as a good reason why... and he was lucky.
Ok, I understand about the gloves. Now could the sermon's please stop? Or better yet, could a moderator remove this thread?
QuoteOriginally posted by KellyG:
Roy just moved to the top of my thumpin list. I did not get an invite either! :mad:
But it looks like a great time.
Well Kelly, I don't think anybody gets invited to Roy's shop. I think people kind of invite themselves to Roy's shop. Or at least ask him for help to the point where he just tells you to come to him as he don't like goin nowhere. I had good luck just showing up on his doorstep with a sixpack one afternoon. Never got an invite, just told him I was coming. All I got was, "You've got my address. Bring beer."
QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Ok, I understand about the gloves. Now could the sermon's please stop? Or better yet, could a moderator remove this thread?
I agree, the point's been made. But I think it was made well and it would be a shame to remove the post with some good information in it. If we're gonna dig any more on Royberta in this post, we should be talking about his taste in beer-flavored seltzer water.
While I'm sorry to hear about the guys who got hurt, I was salivating over the thought of a 16" jointer or a drill press with enough umph to throw a guy into a wall. Heck, I'm just jealous of Roy's sanders.
:goldtooth:
yuppers, pop a guy like a ripe er...canteloupe? :D
i agree Dave- keep the thread up! :thumbsup: i love pics of the ol' fellas shop an all the goings on!!- makes me envious!
QuoteOriginally posted by canopyboy:
"You've got my address. Bring beer."
Hope it wasn't Coors lite. Doesn't qualify ;) .
Looks like you guys had some fun Roy.
Jerry's bow out of the form.
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Cutting out the riser.
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Gluing up the riser.
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Kenny gluing up his bow.
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No gloves were used in the sanding of the riser, so he tore some skin off the finger tips.. Gloves would have prevented that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on_VGcyE9Qk&feature=youtu.be
So would using a piece of scrap wood to apply pressure.
He is fine, didn't get a scratch..
sheesh!!too bad you failed your osha inspection!!
looks like a great day anyhow!!!
hooo-wee!! tough crowd mate! :D
great times- with or without gloves!
keep it coming ol'fella- love your builds.
what i wanna see is, if a newbie can build a great tri lam, then i wont think yer so smart then :D :D
QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
No gloves were used in the sanding of the riser, so he tore some skin off the finger tips.. Gloves would have prevented that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on_VGcyE9Qk&feature=youtu.be
You gotta love Roy! :biglaugh:
Hmm, I don't think he will teach them all the ropes, just to make sure he is still the top gun. :bigsmyl:
Happy New Year Roy and all TradGangers, has been an great year here as always. :campfire:
What you don't see in the picture is the key to a successful first tri-lam build...And that is the guy behind the camera....If I had Roy in my shop I could build a tri-lam too! I wish I could have had some good hands on instruction for my first builds. But participating here with the whole gang has been the next best thing to...Kenny and Jerry's experience.
Happy New Year Roy and all TradGangers, has been an great year here as always. :campfire: [/QB][/QUOTE]
x100 what he said
Boy, that is where its at guys! wish I lived closer! you would have to put up with me in your shop!! LOL
Thanks Guys and Happy New Year..
cant wait to see them done and the full draw pics posted
Roy's not so bad. I mean he could have told them to wear scarves, too. Kidding, Roy...don't thump me.
Happy New Year! :)
Happy New Year brother!
You boys have to quit dumping on Coors though!
I like it fine.
Dave.
Happy New Year everybody!! :pray: :)
Dave.
Wish ya would've invited me. Cause then I coulda said sorry I can't cause I was in Colorado. :)
Next time I come over I'll put up a sign over the door saying "You must wear gloves to enter this shop" ...lol.
LOL
Jerry gluing on the horn tips. Bow was cut out tonight and cleaned up a bit.
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Well he should have been wearing gloves doing that :readit: :laughing:
We hurried up and did it before the OSHA police arrived.. :)
Good grief, he could have slipped and burned his hand on the stovepipe. :nono:
I'll work on that, Bue. I did make him drink his beer through a straw so he didn't cut his lip on the can.. :)
Looks like a grand time....can't wait to see those Bows all dolled up :thumbsup:
I would give someones eye teeth to be in something like that.It would be great to learn from the master ,even if a guy had to drink that Coors lite stuff. :goldtooth:
QuoteOriginally posted by rockkiller:
It would be great to learn from the master...
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Come on out Rocky my man...
Sqweaka, nuff outta you son.
Here is Roy's new fave. Kinda hard to get, but can be had by ol dogs....
:laughing:
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Who you calling an old dog, Sir? LOL
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