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Title: Three under tiller?
Post by: cylyntbowyer on September 01, 2014, 05:54:00 AM
Ok, always been a split finger shooter, but this year went three under...(long story). Got my new longbow built and finally got the tiller to dead even. But when I shoot it three under it is loud! Split finger it's dead quiet and shoots great.  There are so many opinions about dead tiller and positive tiller for three under I have no clue.
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: BigJim on September 01, 2014, 10:42:00 PM
There will be no difference in noise tillered even or positive on top (slightly).

I don't have all the answers as to why it will be noisier three under for the same bow. If you learn to use back tension when you shoot (not an overnight fix) and relax your hand and arm, there will be no more noise.

I shoot three under...when I use proper form, the bow is dead quiet...and when not, it can be kind a loud.

There is no correction that you can make to the bow to remedy this.

BigJIm
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: LittleBen on September 01, 2014, 11:52:00 PM
:campfire:  

Had this problem with several bows, tried everything, three under was loud and split was silent ... Everything else identical.
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: Bowjunkie on September 02, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
Many bows need tillered negative for 3 under and sometimes folks don't go that far.

The measurements resulting from optimal tiller depend as much on bow layout and design as it does how the string and bow is held.
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: cylyntbowyer on September 02, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate the help. Jim I'll try what you said, never hurts to have proper form! You talking about relaxing your hand on my bow arm?
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: fujimo on September 02, 2014, 11:39:00 PM
i changed to 3 under- never noticed a difference in noise- must be my perfect form     :D    
doubt that!!
although when i changed to 3 under i also changed to the "rick welch" style of shooting- with the double anchor point etc- and when set up right- it almost "forces" you to utilize proper back tension- so that ties in with what Big Jim says     :thumbsup:  
it also really helps to ensure consistent draw length- it all improved my accuracy drastically- so now i am average   :D
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: Roy from Pa on September 03, 2014, 06:57:00 AM
I tiller my bows for three under, I have my tree setup to replicate how I shoot the bow. I don't worry about + or - tiller. I want my pull rope to travel straight down in line with where I hook the pull rope onto the bow string. Most times I end up with even tiller or a little bit negative tiller.
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: cylyntbowyer on September 03, 2014, 08:39:00 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate the help. Jim I'll try what you said, never hurts to have proper form! You talking about relaxing your hand on my bow arm?
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: BigJim on September 03, 2014, 10:17:00 PM
No, relax your string arm/hand...but this can only be done if you are using back tension...heck, I use back tension and can't always relax...don't even know what relax means  :)

bigjim
Title: Re: Three under tiller?
Post by: 2treks on September 04, 2014, 11:54:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowjunkie:


The measurements resulting from optimal tiller depend as much on bow layout and design as it does how the string and bow is held.
I agree.