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Title: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 12, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
tillering *****'s bow, and i'd like to have some more experienced eyes look at it along the way.  because its not for me, i want every opportunity to make it as perfect as i can.  im gonna post pictures as i go so if anyone sees anything i don't please chime in.  this is going to be a moderate weight hunting bow at an average draw length.  66" ntn, symetrical.  here it is at a 3" brace and pulling 30@15.
sorry i know the lighting and shadows suck, and some are blurry, and the pegboard holes play tricks on ya,  its looking decent to me, but i will spend more time staring at the pictures before i move on.  also i need to pick a top limb and set my tree up to mimic the shooter's hold.
   (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140212_155829_443_zpsnjzc2akd.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140212_155829_443_zpsnjzc2akd.jpg.html)
   (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140212_155929_365_zpsbxfbwfh9.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140212_155929_365_zpsbxfbwfh9.jpg.html)
   (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140212_160134_773_zpsg9s1dvj9.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140212_160134_773_zpsg9s1dvj9.jpg.html)
   (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140125_143637_694_zpsf49dixbg.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140125_143637_694_zpsf49dixbg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: soy on February 12, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Looks like the rs outer third is stiff to me...could just be the bow is spun a bit( rs is closer)    :dunno:
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 12, 2014, 04:50:00 PM
Its hard for me to tell cause that tip has little reflex to it   i might straighten it out to match the other.  The left limb has a,little pin cluster about 6" from the tip so i dont wanna go tryin to bend that one.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
Too my old eyes it looks a little flat outside of the flare on the right limb.
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Post by: Echatham on February 12, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Yeah i see that now too.  Think ill hit that little spot and then straighten out that right tip and see where im at.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
This is why I like to take pictures then look at them later. Just seems like I can pick out flat spots better than standing in the bow shop.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 12, 2014, 06:19:00 PM
 (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/self.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/ROY-CHRIS/media/self.jpg.html)
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Post by: halfseminole on February 12, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
Roy hit it there.

Why, oh why did you mail us a snowstorm?  We tried putting return to sender on it, but I already have over a half inch in the yard.  They won't take it back now that it's dumping snow on us.  It's not even supposed to snow here.
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 12, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
Yeah i think so.  Ive also found that i can see it better when its real small like on my phone and held far back.  My last bow ended up 15# light cause i didnt take pictures and spend the time lookin at them.... Just tillered by eye all in one day.  Ill get pictures up of that one soon.  Last coat of tru oil is on and handle gets dressed up tomorrow.
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Post by: heartlandbowyer on February 12, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
Eric, paint that tree backing white and put some lines on er those holes can make ya all googly eyed.    :thumbsup:  

Cory
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 12, 2014, 09:14:00 PM
Yeah Cory thats on my to do list!
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Post by: Canadian Idle on February 13, 2014, 12:31:00 AM
WOW... you guys got good eyes   :notworthy:
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 08:58:00 AM
alright, i touched up that area and braced it a little higher, bout 4.5".  how we lookin?
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_084634_499_zpsgsukrpcw.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_084634_499_zpsgsukrpcw.jpg.html)
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_085218_647_zpsa54twedj.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_085218_647_zpsa54twedj.jpg.html)
im thinkin the right limb is a little flat near the middle, where i indicated, and the left limb inner third could bend a whisker more.  what say you?
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 09:00:00 AM
btw thats 32#@ 15".  whats that project out to?  still plenty of room to get over 50 right?
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
38 @18.   im steppin back from it for a while.  something doesnt look right and i cant put my finger on it.  once i get it straightened out and looking good at 18 im gonna heat treat the belly and give it just a touch of reflex.
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140217_091526_809_zpsnlc6e0tr.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140217_091526_809_zpsnlc6e0tr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 09:38:00 AM
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/lksdlk_zps838d511b.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/lksdlk_zps838d511b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
did a little more work and i think i about got it.  now im thinking outer third right limb stiff.  gonna take a couple scrapes from mid limb out and then a couple on the outer third.  couple full length left limb to keep em matched and i should be in business.
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_122624_984_zpsmfyvf06r.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_122624_984_zpsmfyvf06r.jpg.html)
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_122643_934_zpsl7w5ygbr.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_122643_934_zpsl7w5ygbr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_150029_673_zpsmtlmhw87.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_150029_673_zpsmtlmhw87.jpg.html)
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_145908_010_zpskdk4qlhr.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140217_145908_010_zpskdk4qlhr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
Doesn't look bad, but looks a little flat just outside flare on limb to left..
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 17, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
yeah i see that now. good eyes.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 17, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Nice heart too..  :)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: John Scifres on February 20, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
From the fade to midlimb on the left needs some scrapes.  There is a spot just past midlimb that is bending too much.  Mark it "NO".  Looks like there is a bit of a roller coaster there in the unbraced pic.
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 09:04:00 AM
Thanks for your input John.  Ill look out for that when i get it braced again.  Toasted in a couple inches of reflex a couple days ago. So ill resume tillering probably tomorrow.  I do see what youre talking about
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 02:18:00 PM
couldn't wait any longer, so i strung it up and started working back down to 18".  pulling 39#@18 now.  took a few scrapes off the inner third of the left limb right limb is a bit stiff near the tip but its got a pin knot cluster there.

 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140220_141242_334_zpsdcinkfvw.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140220_141242_334_zpsdcinkfvw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
Looks better, not bad for 18". I would stay away from the circled no's. LMAO too.  :)

  (http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f165/ROY-CHRIS/ericbow-1.jpg) (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/ROY-CHRIS/media/ericbow-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
not sure i see it on the right limb, but i agree on the left.  I think i need to takes some meat off midlimb on the left.  it needs to get weaker anyway cause its gonna be the bottom.
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/bc94b196-4b5b-42ef-8230-a662bd8d5797_zpsf3a72897.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/bc94b196-4b5b-42ef-8230-a662bd8d5797_zpsf3a72897.jpg.html)

took my brace up to 5" and pulled to 20.  41#.   im going to move my bottom pully now that im getting close, set it up to sync the limbs for a split... or 3 under... or whatever that guy shoots.    ;)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 02:45:00 PM
haha i just seen the heart    :wavey:
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2014, 02:52:00 PM
Right limb isn't bad, I just would stay away from there. What brace height you have it too now?
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Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 03:08:00 PM
5" brace.  before i get myself all jammed up on this limb sync thing again.... i got that backwards don't I?  its easy tillering for myself cause the way i hold the bow and string is pretty much center and center.  the way this tree is,  it allows the bow to rock.  when i move the pully over to simulate a higher hold on the string, the bow tips to the top, or right. so in order to correct for that i want the top limb to get weaker right?

Oh Jeff!!!!     :help:    :pray:
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
see any difference in this one and the last one?
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140220_150131_223_zpsnfnydp5e.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140220_150131_223_zpsnfnydp5e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
ok im gonna leave you all with these two pics to ponder.  I got one little voice telling me thats enough for today, and another telling me its time to pick up the kids and go to girl scouts.  44#@22".  from both sides.
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140220_154707_156_zpsmpefpnul.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140220_154707_156_zpsmpefpnul.jpg.html)
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/IMG_20140220_154118_619_zpswd3yneqz.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/IMG_20140220_154118_619_zpswd3yneqz.jpg.html)
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
whats tricky (to me) is that the limbs come off the handle at slightly different angles, and then wen the tips go stiff they come off at different angles too.
Title: Re: wouldn't mind extra eyes on this one... howzabout now?
Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
 (http://i1308.photobucket.com/albums/s608/echatham/9a3fbbb6-52e3-47e2-a2c6-73e63b7c58df_zpsbafb1123.jpg) (http://s1308.photobucket.com/user/echatham/media/9a3fbbb6-52e3-47e2-a2c6-73e63b7c58df_zpsbafb1123.jpg.html)
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 20, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Yes
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Post by: Bowjunkie on February 20, 2014, 05:17:00 PM
Yes, just a little bit.
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Post by: Echatham on February 20, 2014, 07:52:00 PM
alright thanks guys, im gonna try to take it from here.  got her to 24" and lookin real good.  don't wanna give away the draw weight or length so im gonna keep it to myself for now unless i get screwed up somewhere.