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Title: Second longbow finished
Post by: EHK on January 30, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
Well, I finished my second Kenny M style longbow.  There are still some finish flaws, but it came out significantly better than my first which is really all I can ask for at this point.  

Limb tips still are hardest part for me.  I seem to have a hard time getting the transition from limb to tip smooth.  The limb tip overlays on this one slid on me during glue-up and I really wasn't happy with them.  In grinding them off and re-doing them, I wound up sanding a bit too far into the limb so there's a finish flaw on both limb tips.

Finish flaws and all, I have to say this bow shoots really well.  Really well.  I actually couldn't be happier with the performance.

Riser is zebra wood with a dymondwood accent. The veneers are ash that I stained.  Target weight was 45 at 29 and that's right where she finished up.  Looking forward to the next build and hoping I can iron out the flaws.

 (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc369/ehk49/LB2/IMG_0489_zpse009a02b.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ehk49/media/LB2/IMG_0489_zpse009a02b.jpg.html)
 (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc369/ehk49/LB2/IMG_0493_zps6d29d8b5.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ehk49/media/LB2/IMG_0493_zps6d29d8b5.jpg.html)
 (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc369/ehk49/LB2/IMG_0492_zps515d795d.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ehk49/media/LB2/IMG_0492_zps515d795d.jpg.html)
 (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc369/ehk49/LB2/IMG_0491_zps56ff6979.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ehk49/media/LB2/IMG_0491_zps56ff6979.jpg.html)
 (http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc369/ehk49/LB2/IMG_0490_zpscb672421.jpg) (http://s1208.photobucket.com/user/ehk49/media/LB2/IMG_0490_zpscb672421.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: KellyG on January 30, 2014, 08:09:00 PM
and it looks like she turned out sweet.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: heartlandbowyer on January 30, 2014, 08:14:00 PM
Looks pretty darn good for a second. Tip on tips I use around chainsaw file for my tips the round profile helps me with the fade and finish sanding with thumb and sand paper. It won't hour to touch the glass a little just don't go through it. I wouldn't totally sand the tips off and start over get ya a file and work out the fade. They do take some practice.
 (http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/101_2596_zps0859ea89.jpg) (http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/cengert74/media/101_2596_zps0859ea89.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: EHK on January 30, 2014, 08:58:00 PM
Thank you guys.  Hoping I'll be ready for bow swap 2015!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: chackworth3 on January 30, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
That's way better than what my second bow looked like! Nice bow!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Trux Turning on January 30, 2014, 09:56:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by EHK:
Thank you guys.  Hoping I'll be ready for bow swap 2015!
You are ready now.... Nice job on this one!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: red hill on January 30, 2014, 10:23:00 PM
True is right!  You're good enough now!

I made a device copied from PatB. It's a tile cutting blade I attached to a scrape piece of wood.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: fujimo on January 30, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
nice job.
awesome bows- those kenny-m's
i just love mine too!
best shooting bow i have ever made myself!!

like they all said- the tips are just practice. what i do is i put a pieca of masking tape across the limb- right snug up against the tip overlay, then apply glue and clamp down.
that way any excess glue is not stuck to the bow, and the tape absorbs any sanding filing errors, until i am down to the last bit of sanding, and all i have to remove is the tape thickness of material with the limb exposed- does that make sense??!! hope its clear   :confused:
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: cunruhshoot on January 30, 2014, 11:30:00 PM
Eric - great job on this bow. Love the riser and the glue lines look really nice.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: D on January 30, 2014, 11:31:00 PM
That looks great.  I like the dark limbs.  The way I do my tips is like this.  I glue my layers together in the stack first, then after that dried I sand down the side that is going to facing the limb (fade spot)to an angle to where its is a feathered point.  Then I use the tape to protect the glass and since I already grinded the fade area down before I glued it on the limb there's not much left to "fade" in.  I take a piece of sand paper and wrap it around a round file.  That may be the way everyone else does it or it may not but it works for me.  Like everyone else said it just takes practice just take your time and don't rush it.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: fujimo on January 31, 2014, 01:16:00 AM
yup ,per square inch, they seem to take the most time- so dont be disheartened if you think it is taking too long- it isnt.

you going to be looking at them for a long time- so take your time.
good tip from D- preshaping them.

i also use the paper round the file
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: bigbob2 on January 31, 2014, 03:22:00 AM
great job!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: MoeM on January 31, 2014, 04:26:00 AM
Nice bow! My second didn`t look that good, too...
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Buemaker on January 31, 2014, 06:35:00 AM
Looking Good. Bue--.   :)
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: EHK on January 31, 2014, 08:03:00 AM
Thanks for the encouragement and the tips, guys!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: BenM on January 31, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
Very nice.  I have to try a r/d next
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Bodork on January 31, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
Nice job! Those finish flaws are called character marks! The more bows you make the harder they are to see but virtually every bowyer can find a flaw in his bows. Usually not seen by others but there is always a glue line not tight enough, a overlay not blended well enough, a wood grain not filled enough, or even crappy penmanship on the specs! I HATE my handwriting! You will be your biggest critic and that's a good thing! If you hold yourself to a higher standard, everyone will notice.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: kennym on January 31, 2014, 09:04:00 PM
Great job Eric, my #bow 2 looked pretty rough compared to that!!    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    

A round file wrapped in sandpaper is a good tool too!!
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Dmaxshawn on January 31, 2014, 09:16:00 PM
greed with the above.  My #2 wasnt that good.   awesome combo too
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: jess stuart on February 01, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
I agree with everyone, great looking bow! So much better than the first several I built.  Tips are one of the things that still give me fits and require a bunch of time.  I have found that if I pre glue them together and pre taper before putting them on the limb it helps.  I also put a piece of glass under the overlay that it just a bit longer than the phenolic and fade the phenolic into it then once installed on the limb I fade the glass into the glass on the limb.
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: EHK on February 01, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
I like the pre-shape/fade idea.  I'll have to give that a shot the next time around.

Thanks again for all the suggestions and kind words.

Eric
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: critman on February 01, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
She's a beauty EHK. Colors are awesome. Dang good job my friend.  :clapper:
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 01, 2014, 04:00:00 PM
Very nice..
Title: Re: Second longbow finished
Post by: Crittergetter on February 01, 2014, 07:08:00 PM
I'm working on my first glass bow now (KennyM of corse) and I hope it turns out half as good as yours! Looks great!