Once you have all the stuff built that you need like a form and a heat box, what is an average cost to build a laminated recurve or longbow.
Depends on whether or not you grind your own laminations or order them. If you order them, you'll have about $125 - $175 in materials depending on how exotic you go with woods for laminations and riser.
Also depends what type of bow. Absolute bare minimum, 2 pieces of glass, and 2 pairs of lams (I guess you could even get away with one lam for a hill bow). Lets say you made the riser from scrap off of hardwood pallets or something ... I think it's like $20/ glass and maybe $15minimum for each pair of lams.
So maybe $70 plus glue etc.
If you grind your lams, maple or cherry is pretty cheap, probably a lam costs like $1 to make.
Ok great. I am really looking forward to starting on my first one after the holidays. Hopefully followed by several more.
Little Ben,
Don't forget the cost of the machinery sanders, bandsaw to make those lams.
Runs that cost way up.
Yep. Number of lams is obviously a factor. I was thinking the 4 lam longbows I typically build.
I have a 12" bandsaw, and a router.
Other than wood and glass there are Shop supplies.. sand paper, sanding sleeves for my spindle Sander, paper for my mouse sander, belts for belt sander, band saw blades, nock files, spray finish, ,acetone, denatured alcohol,masking tape. Glue, smooth on, plastic wrap, etc...cost me at least $200 to build a one piece bow with pretty veneers. I don't grind tapers I buy them, I do cut my veneers and riser blocks
i wonder if you could grind lams with a router- CAREFULLY!!!, a sled, a good fence and running from the correct side.
dont be disillusioned , the guys are just being very practical- all the stuff they need, and thats all true- but a lot of it is quite affordable, some of the stuff you might have already, and the tools will all be multi-functional.
buy lams for you first one or two.
there are some great plans on here for mini lam grinders, they can even be done on a press drill, and i bet they could be done on the router too.
look at the rigid combo belt/spindle/disc sander- seems like an awesome tool. i dont have one- but would love one!!
i am just really getting into the glass bows myself, having built self bows and laminated bows for a few years now- its an exciting journey!!!
heck, build your wife a few cutting boards- can never have enough cutting boards... then you could buy all the tools you need :D :D
I had not really thought of all that extra stuff. I have about 400 dollars. Hopefully I will have enough to get the first one built.
go for it!!!!!
By the time I got all the stuff I needed to make a decent bow, I could have ordered 3 really nice customs :) Mine still are nowhere close to some of the artistic creations some of you guys make, but I wouldn't trade em for any I've seen.
Oh, I forgot to include the $ for the string..I buy them from the pro string makers. I tried making one once....
I have built several longbows with almost no power tools. I cut my first limb profile with a hack saw with the frame bent in a 45 degree angle. A farriers rasp and lesser rasps and files to shape the riser. Cut out the sight window with the bent hacksaw. I took the limb edges down to final shape with a file running it lengthwise up and down the limbs but soon discovered the value of a piece of wood about ten inches long with 60 grit sandpaper glued to it.
Cut the riser fades in rough with a coping saw. Only thing I used power on was to feather the fades on a drum sander. You could do that by hand too with some care and patience.
DO NOT USE YOUR BAND SAW TO CUT THE FIBERGLASS!!! It will smoke your blade in about three inches :eek:
If you order instructions and a kit to build a basic longbow from Binghams you will be off to a good start.
All ya need is a hatchet and a woods nearby to fell a sapling to make a real bow :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Black Mockingbird:
All ya need is a hatchet and a woods nearby to fell a sapling to make a real bow :thumbsup:
Dang, I must be shooting ghost bows or sumpin. :eek:
Where you live is prime Osage country. Find a tree to cut down, split it into staves and let dry for a few months and your bow won't cost you anything.
Since I grind my own lams, the least I've ever paid for a bow was a little under $30.
It was 60 long, and 1" wide at the fades. Fast as any other bow, but plain looking.
I used a 2" strip of .030 ul glass ($9.50, since I buy in bulk) I used a $17.00 hickory wheel barrow handle from Ace hardware for the lams and riser. About $0.75 worth of smooth-on, About $0.50 in string material.
So it cost me around $27.75
On another note, if I would add up the cost to build my bow shop, and the cost of all the toys, oop's tools, I've bought. I'd say my bows cost about $500.00 a piece:) LOL
And don't forget the cost of the beer!
On the other end of the spectrum, I've made bows that just the wood from which I cut the riser cost nearly $100...
LOL BMN:)
If you like PBR the cost of beer isn't all that significant.
nothing wrong with PBR
Nope..
PBR was awarded America's best beer in 1893. They still have it on the can 120 years later. Nothing wrong with it at all, it just doesn't cost a lot. In fact, I've made bows for lest than what a case of PBR costs.
I've made bows that took me 3 cases of PBR to finish:)
I haven't made a bow that took less than 1 case of PBR ....
Ron, I'm with you 100%, the equipment to make all the lams etc. can be very expensive. It's definately not worth buying a drum sander to make a bow or two ... you need to be a real addict first to make that worthwhile.
Someone mentioned homemade lam grinders. That's what I use, I built mine from a 1/4HP motor I got for around $35, 3" sanding drum ($25), and a single sheet of 3/4" hardwood ply ($40 or so) ... total cost a little over $100 ... it's not made for high volume or professional work, but it grinds with suprising precision for a wooden machine ... typically within .001-.002 side to side, and within tha same margin over the length of the lam. I could definately use a better taper sled ... turns out thats a bit trickeir to make.
Like Todd Cook I could have bought several really nice customs with what I had in my first bow. Table band saw, sander, form, hot box, misc tools and consumables and the materials for the bow. But I wouldn't go back and do it any other way. I do not envy my friends high dollar customs in the least. I made mine. I'm sure most here feel the same way.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0716
Here's what I use, I have two of them. One in my shop and one in my brother's shop. They work great.
it really depends the type of the bow and type of the material you used.
BUT
SHOOTING WITH SELF MADE BOW IS PRICELESS
Well said inksoup. Hard to top the satisfaction you get from shooting a bow that you put the time into to make yourself. I haven't made a glass laminated bow yet, but the build alongs I've seen for a straight Hill style look like they could be made with a minimum of tools and cash. Just get some Smooth On and riser wood, lams, and glass from Kenny M. The form is just a straight 2 X 6 ( or 2 X 8 ? ) and you could use inner tubes and dowels for the glue up.
Well guys thanks so much for all the responses. You have me super excited to get started. I am sure I am gonna make a lot of mistakes, but nothing a little (or a lot) of PBR can't get me through. Thanks again.