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Title: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: takefive on December 07, 2013, 02:11:00 AM
I just picked up a rift sawn hard maple board that has some birds eye to it.  Grain looks very straight and clear.  I'm thinking about backing a red elm board with it.  Anyone ever use it for backing?
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: halfseminole on December 07, 2013, 07:53:00 AM
Pine Hollow Longbows sells maple for backing, though I don't know how it's sawn nor the pattern.  I do think flame would be a tough backing, but I have no idea about birdseye.  Should be a real looker, though.  Would love to build a maple backed bow myself-got some ERC that would pop with a piece.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: Pat B on December 07, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Birds eyes are swirls in the grain around a knot and not strong in tension because of the violations. It should work fine for belly slats but not backings.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: takefive on December 07, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Thanks for the input and advice guys.  Guess I'll go with old reliable hickory and save the birds eye for the belly wood on another one.     :)
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: LittleBen on December 07, 2013, 03:15:00 PM
flame, curly, or other figured wood is a very abd choice for backing. The figure comes from the grain being wavy, and not straight. The thign that actually cause the figure is that you're cutting through the wood fibers at varying angles ... bad news for a backing. Would be ok for belly lam, but still not optimal.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: halfseminole on December 07, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
And I just learned something too.  I see a lot of laminated bows with the stuff, I just didn't know the rules here were different.  Good to know before I messed up my stave.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: Pat B on December 07, 2013, 09:22:00 PM
Glass bows have glass backing holding the figured wood together.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: Bowjunkie on December 07, 2013, 10:09:00 PM
I once built a bow with curly maple on the belly. You've never seen so many frets in a bow. It fretted between the curls.... probably two dozen of them or so. It was pretty awesome :^)

I'll never again use/waste it on a bow without glass.
Title: Re: Birds eye maple for backing?
Post by: LittleBen on December 07, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
I ahd the same experience as bowjunkie.... I like at that massive piece of curly maple thats now shaped down into a "bow" ... really a wall hanger and I think about how many limb veneers and riser accents are in there ...