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Title: Started another snubnose...Done!
Post by: Trux Turning on November 29, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
A friend of mine has been wanting one of these short bows so I got started on one for him- the riser is wenge with a mosaic strip. It should finish 50-55#s@28" if all goes as planned. Here's a few pictures of my progress on the riser first.
  (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/5ed6baa5f7f4208badc4e742c36ad0bd_zpsb3858f0e.jpg)
 (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/d75e80b601d52e6fc3d45582d54a0b6e_zps1c46c3e4.jpg)
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Post by: Trux Turning on November 29, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
Here is the riser before and after shaping.
 (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/18ce45af0aca63fc30b92f4bd8dba3f0_zpsbda6c010.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/3e25e62530cbb99e04c6040bd8a89687_zpsf02e6ffd.jpg)
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Post by: jess stuart on November 29, 2013, 09:42:00 AM
Looking good Dave, can't wait to see more progress.  That Wenge riser will look awesome.  What color of glass?
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Post by: BenBow on November 29, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Nice!
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Post by: Trux Turning on November 29, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by jess stuart:
Looking good Dave, can't wait to see more progress.  That Wenge riser will look awesome.  What color of glass?
Jess he wants black glass and maybe a thumb rest. If I put one on it will probably be a piece of elk antler. The jury is still out on that at the moment.
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Post by: kennym on November 29, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
Cool!!
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Post by: jess stuart on November 29, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
Elk antler would be a nice touch, will look classy with the black glass. I have a couple going with Wenge and black glass at the moment.
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Post by: LittleBen on November 29, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
Love that design. The mosaic is sweet, and I really like those shorties you've been making. When I finally get myself together and build a glass bow it'll be one of those. Can't wait to see more progress.
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Post by: jsweka on November 29, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
That's gonna be one cool looking bow.

Please keep posting pics as it comes to life.
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Post by: Dmaxshawn on November 29, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jess stuart:
Elk antler would be a nice touch, will look classy with the black glass. I have a couple going with Wenge and black glass at the moment.
x 2
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Post by: Crooked Stic on November 29, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Wenge ---a B. fill looks good though.
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Post by: Roy from Pa on November 29, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
Sweet..
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 01, 2013, 03:21:00 PM
So here it is out of the form with the boogers  knocked off- it still needs a couple of inches trimmed off both ends. I've never worked with wenge but I hear it takes a fair amount of grain filling- maybe similar to Purple Heart?
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/6f071909f6b548339f813cca937e86df_zpsa4beb7cd.jpg)
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Post by: KellyG on December 01, 2013, 03:48:00 PM
Boy those look awesome trux.  I still say they look like a cape buffalo. Heck make an all black on and call it Black death in honor of that mighty beast.

But that one looks sweet for sure.
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Post by: bowhntineverythingnh03743 on December 01, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
Dang seeing these shorties really makes me wanna try building one... Where to find plans for these though???
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 01, 2013, 04:31:00 PM
Yea my buddy wanted a lot of black with some red in the tip  and riser overlays so this one may get that name. Got some rough shaping done.
 (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/a9b8694c2938d53d058ddc2323bbbf04_zpsdf32985e.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/1f9e42f5af42c02eed69e1063f3ca82a_zps8145c67b.jpg)
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Post by: fujimo on December 01, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
two quick questions
1.do you find your accuracy is compromised with such a short bow
2.are they inherently more noisy

thanks
wayne
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Post by: fujimo on December 01, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
sorry one more...
what is the length of that beast!!!!   :eek:
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 01, 2013, 06:14:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by fujimo:
two quick questions
1.do you find your accuracy is compromised with such a short bow
2.are they inherently more noisy
thanks
wayne
It doesn't compromise my accuracy...I'm not that good of a shot-lol. This one is like many recurves on the noise level- it does need the correct brace height and string silencers. Nock to nock it is 45"s- it uses a 40 inch string so amo would be 43"
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Post by: Crooked Stic on December 01, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
Looking good. Oh you will probably be cussing before you get the wenge filled good. I think a acetone and smooth-on mix might do it though.
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Post by: bamboo on December 01, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
nice bow---I use the super glue jell squeegeed in to fill-sand -fill/sand/fill let the sawdust lay on it and help fill-
some wenge needs more attention--some less
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Post by: DeerBacon on December 01, 2013, 10:54:00 PM
Sweet!!!   :notworthy:
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 02, 2013, 09:58:00 AM
Thanks for the tips on grain fillers- I've used the epoxy and acetone before with good results- maybe I'll luck out and have an easy piece of wenge to work with...
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Post by: beachbowhunter on December 02, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Wenge is not that bad. Just mix up some gloss T Bird and brush on a couple of coats and sand down. Do a third if needed.
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 02, 2013, 01:06:00 PM
So I've got all the overlays glued on- I did glue on a piece of elk antler for a thumb rest- it's a bit oversized at the moment but some sanding will take care of that.
All the overlay parts and pieces..
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/900EB13A-C6A6-4723-95DF-7DEDF7D8A6E7_zps7dvsdvkz.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/0ccb0b9d14f74d5bcc9a953b29bd5a14_zpscc72dc25.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/e9d5014878cafc17e1b264041b928117_zps28b87ed9.jpg)
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Post by: LittleBen on December 02, 2013, 02:02:00 PM
The bow seems to be setup with quite a bit of string follow (the tips look about 1-2" behind the front of the riser). Is this because it's so short?

What's a typical brace height for this bow?

Do you think it could be done with more reflex, or even just the tips even with the front of the riser if it were for a draw of less than 28"?
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 02, 2013, 03:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by LittleBen:
The bow seems to be setup with quite a bit of string follow (the tips look about 1-2" behind the front of the riser). Is this because it's so short?

What's a typical brace height for this bow?

Do you think it could be done with more reflex, or even just the tips even with the front of the riser if it were for a draw of less than 28"?
The 1-2"s is because of the length. It takes a 9" brace height. Stability becomes and issue with it if the limbs are longer- it will unstring itself because of that. I've never experimented with the design other to change it.
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Post by: goobersan on December 02, 2013, 07:37:00 PM
Can't wait to see how this one turns out. Great job Trux !!
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Post by: chackworth3 on December 02, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
It's looking good Trux
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Post by: chackworth3 on December 02, 2013, 08:27:00 PM
It's looking good Trux
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Post by: wakolbinger on December 02, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
Man, hard not to love side profile curves like that.
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 13, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
Finally got some time to work on the bow. I got the riser shaped and started blending in the overlays. Next come the tips...
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/B1C0DD03-252A-4CDD-9778-4E127244A196_zpsckqagkje.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/100557E9-01BE-4E14-8BA2-E2A943594A7C_zpsub6sxdrh.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/3915F054-F97D-452F-8C54-2C146260C3E3_zpsruvx9a7h.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/0DB15D29-98C6-4DCB-BF71-5C1075244CC8_zpsdzondvyv.jpg)
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Post by: Igor on December 13, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
Whats not to like...thanks for sharing!

><>>

Glenn
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Post by: BenBow on December 13, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Love it!
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Post by: red hill on December 13, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
I always love your mosaics, Trux!   :clapper:
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Post by: Crooked Stic on December 13, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Man someone should be a happy camper. THAT IS REALLY GOOD LOOKING WENGE.
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Post by: jess stuart on December 13, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
Nice one Dave!  You need to move back up this way and teach this old dummy how to do those mosaics.
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Post by: kennym on December 13, 2013, 09:26:00 PM
That is AWESOME David!
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 13, 2013, 10:27:00 PM
Thanks guys! I see some grain filler in my future with the wenge but it should look good once the finish hits it. If all goes well I should have it done in plenty of time for Xmas. Jess I'll have to track you down next time I'm in town.
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Post by: Dmaxshawn on December 14, 2013, 07:33:00 AM
That wenge rocks David
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Post by: goobersan on December 14, 2013, 08:49:00 AM
:clapper:
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Post by: BMN on December 14, 2013, 10:18:00 AM
Man that looks good!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: JJB on December 14, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
I really like your work, that's going to be a beauty.
-Jay
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 14, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
Well I got the nocks cut in and braced- it's right at 56#s@28" now. My buddy was wanting one between 50-55#s so once I'm done sanding I should be right in there. Here's a picture with a ruler to put it into perspective.... Down to the detail work now
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/17BB10B3-36FE-499C-ADD4-CB41A7A0E8EE_zpstv87q7ny.jpg)
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 14, 2013, 06:31:00 PM
Finished the tiller and limb alignment- had to try it out. It shoots pretty nice.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/3fcc7d6c94042f304847f68747231e8d_zps682885fd.jpg)
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Post by: bornofmud on December 14, 2013, 06:49:00 PM
Man that thing is awesome.  Amazing work!!  Got a shot at full draw?  I love seeing how these things bend, quite different than what I'm used to!
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Post by: Buemaker on December 15, 2013, 10:01:00 AM
Excellent  work. Bue--.
http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/wenge/
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Post by: Pheonixarcher on December 15, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
That's a great looking bow! The woods are awesome, and that grip looks sweet. Great job!
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 15, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Here's a full draw shot drawn to ~28"s.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/80d284d0496d1a70209e8e3fed0a59bc_zps9716b7c3.jpg)
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Post by: bornofmud on December 15, 2013, 03:37:00 PM
That's so cool!  Super nice job on that, looks like those tips could take an even longer draw, crazy!  Thanks for sharing!
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Post by: DeerBacon on December 15, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
Sweet!!! I got to try a snubnose build soon.
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 22, 2013, 04:41:00 PM
Getting close and no worries about it not being ready for Christmas. Just need to let the finish cure some and add the arrow rest.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/6046bbba1fcca50579bef1ccad8185b6_zpsaadc38e3.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/9d6d07948e02d1b1cacd777effdc5134_zps4cd4fadc.jpg)
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Post by: BenBow on December 22, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Man that finish makes it pop! Nice job
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Post by: jess stuart on December 22, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Very nice Dave.  What did you use to fill the grain on the Wenge?  Reason I ask I have one going with a wenge riser.
I still remember your first couple of bows doesn't seem that long ago.  You have really got the building em down.
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 22, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Jess I used super glue- one thick coat that got sanded off then I just needed to redo the areas that still needed additional filling. I've used epoxy/acetone before with good results- don't know which one works better. I still learn something new with each one.
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Post by: bigbob2 on December 22, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
Man that riser is super sweet. terrific bow.
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 23, 2013, 06:03:00 PM
Here's a few pics with the finish cured. I'll string it up tomorrow a break it in before my bud gets it. He wanted a black bow with some red accents and I think he will be happy with it- he should be surprised.
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/1780ac9bf2ab444d558fbe6641359ba1_zps7cc73e0b.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/8725df6be7371c906b033eec9b7a6d9a_zpsa86253a6.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/a01d6d9a24efcfb265d081a01fefca29_zps71964f05.jpg)
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 23, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
A couple more...
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/274d2c9e7494f5a09ab59a7ccccef8f2_zps57fdbadb.jpg)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/95d02af277ff53ee4cb9862f033ec081_zps4b548b4e.jpg)
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Post by: MoeM on December 23, 2013, 06:08:00 PM
Hell that thing is freaking terrific man... can`t find the right words- not caused by foreign language probs!
That`s propably the most you can get out of wenge and the mosaic is a perfect underline; combined with such a shorty it`s really close to leaving me speechless... I wanna touch it!
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Post by: beachbowhunter on December 23, 2013, 06:11:00 PM
Spectacular!
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Post by: Crooked Stic on December 23, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Wow ! Those close-ups look awesome.
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Post by: bowhntineverythingnh03743 on December 23, 2013, 11:53:00 PM
Great looking bow! Well done as usual!
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Post by: KenH on December 24, 2013, 09:04:00 AM
Trux -

Have you ever though of making that snubnose with just a rounded banana shaped riser and no arrow shelf?  

No only am I interested, I decided to post so that I can follow this discussion...
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 24, 2013, 11:25:00 AM
Thanks all! Ken- I never thought of that... Here's the last picture before it gets wrapped up and given away.
 (http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll259/truxturning/b7f037149d975fcc5bd08492e4f72af8_zps2f7e4e77.jpg)
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Post by: bjansen on December 25, 2013, 08:07:00 AM
Great work Trux.  Beautifully done.
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Post by: ron w on December 25, 2013, 08:16:00 AM
Outstanding........
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Post by: Trapper Rob on December 25, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
He unwraps that he'll have more than a smile on his face it's a real beauty love the riser.
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Post by: Bodork on December 25, 2013, 11:20:00 AM
That thing is truly awesome! Fantastic craftsmanship! Looks flawless! A definite work of art! Looks like it would be a struggle to get the lams glued up and in place.
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Post by: goobersan on December 26, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
a thing of beauty for sure !!
great job Trux (as usual)   :notworthy:
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Post by: Lineman72 on December 26, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Amazing bro
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 26, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Thanks- my buddy was surprised to say the least... He could not figure out why I was putting him off every time he brought up having me build him a snubnose-lol
Mike I have to use clamps, zip ties and inner tube bands to get it in the form- the first one was a real battle.
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Post by: KellyG on December 26, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
Man those are awesome looking little bows. Trux what is the brace of one of them?
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Post by: Trux Turning on December 26, 2013, 11:24:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by KellyG:
Man those are awesome looking little bows. Trux what is the brace of one of them?
Kelly right at 9"s.