This is my 56" hybrid with desert camo a-wood riser, parallels and .003 taper edge grain a-wood...
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I use green frog tape on the glass, it seems like it pulls off better...
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Next I mark center and the limb length and riser length... (http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/chackworth3/DSC01215_zpsb75f0a11.jpg) (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/chackworth3/media/DSC01215_zpsb75f0a11.jpg.html)
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Then I mark the tip and fade thickness and draw a center line and the limb profiles, I do this pre glue up because it works for me, a lot of folks do it post glue up though... I keep it 1 1/8" at the fades and 1/2" at the tips...
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Now on to the riser. Cut it down to 16" and mark center and use the form to trace the riser...
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Then I mark 1" and 2" from the ends and mark 1/8" thick at 1 and 1/4" at 2 and 4 1/4" at the grip of the riser and use a rigid/flexible tape to mark the belly ramps...
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:clapper:
Before I cut the riser, I bevel the tapers and back veneers (sorry no pics of doing it) and use CA glue and clamp them together to dry while I start cutting and sanding the riser...
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While the veneers are drying I cut and sand the riser...
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...make sure the riser is flush with the form...
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...cut out and sand down the belly ramps with a belt sander and get the fades paper thin...
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Let everything warm up in the oven for about 15 minutes and lay it out ready to glue up...
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I skipped a few pics and steps right here because my camera died and there was epoxy everywhere but long story short I put plastic wrap on the form, glued up the bow and clamped it down and taped it using packing tape, cheaper than filament tape and works very well, and put more plastic wrap over the bow and then pressure strips and the hose... aired up to about 65 psi... here it is ready for the oven...more to come tomorrow...
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This is great. I love seeing how others do it.
I also lay out my center line and limb profile pre-glue up.
Nice work. I will be following this one.
Bonner
Looking good. I'll be following, too.
I like it! Can't wait to see how a pro does the rest. I had one hell of a time gluing and clamping up a bow today on my own. Usually I have someone around to give me a hand but today it was all me. I got to come up with a better system to keep everything in place while I wrap the blank up with tape and plastic wrap.
Very good. Never heard of frog tape, what is that? Bue--.
QuoteOriginally posted by bowhntineverythingnh03743:
I like it! Can't wait to see how a pro does the rest. I had one hell of a time gluing and clamping up a bow today on my own. Usually I have someone around to give me a hand but today it was all me. I got to come up with a better system to keep everything in place while I wrap the blank up with tape and plastic wrap.
I use a clamp to clamp down the riser and all of the back of the bow on the center of the form. Then I put on the belly lams and tape everything down tight. This way everything stays put while you tape it down.
QuoteOriginally posted by Buemaker:
Very good. Never heard of frog tape, what is that? Bue--.
It's pretty much just green paint tape. It works great!
Round 2. Here we go...out of the oven
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Make sure everything still lines up...
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Use the bandsaw to cut out the limb profiles...
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...and clean them up on the belt sander...
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Now the tips... use a 45 square and mark the nocks...
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Use a chainsaw file to cut them out and TAKE YOUR TIME!
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Now let's string it up and check the profile and tiller... I use an 18" piece of plywood...
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Now I find the stiff limb measured at the fade of the riser and like it about 1/8" positive tiller, this one turned out perfect so there wasn't any adjusting needed...
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...and back to the tips. Rough them up with some 80-100 grit and get the ready for the overlays....
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I use a piece of glass and some leftover riser material and pre taper where the overlays meet the glass and use CA glue and clamp them down...
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I get the riser ready for overlays at the same time and go ahead and rough sketch the shelf and grip...
(http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/chackworth3/DSC01254_zpsd940a113.jpg) (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/chackworth3/media/DSC01254_zpsd940a113.jpg.html)
I do the same thing with the riser overlays... (http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/chackworth3/DSC01256_zps1a147bcd.jpg) (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/chackworth3/media/DSC01256_zps1a147bcd.jpg.html)
...and let it dry overnight since I used epoxy for the riser overlay...
Bowhunting everything, One trick I learned from the posts on here to hold everything down during glue up is to drill four holes in the bottom form just below the surface and use cable ties to cinch down the lams etc, and one extra at the riser. When it all laid up, inflate to no more than 20PSI, check all alignment and snip and extract ties.Works great.Great build along too Chackworth3 .
Nice job Chris, its easy to miss the pics when gluing up!!
I do a LOT of the same stuff the same way as you!!
Good job so far Chris. Should have hollered when you done the glue up and I could have come over and took the pictures for you while you played with that slick bow snot!!!
Thanks guys! Now back to it...
After the overlays are on I start with the belly of the tips. I trap down about 12" or so on the belly of the tips just to lighten them up a little...
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I use 80 grit 1" sanding belt to shape and smooth out the tips then 120 grit ( just cut paper into strips this time) to smooth out the 80 grit.
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Now to the riser...I cut out the shelf at 1 1/4" above center (comes out to about 1 1/8 finished) and cut to 1/8" past center with a hacksaw. Then cut the sight window out with a bandsaw...
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I make the sight window about 2 3/4" above the shelf...
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Then shape out the shelf and the sight window with a rasp. Go from glass to wood or you will splinter the glass...
(http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/chackworth3/DSC01264_zpsec1c3d41.jpg) (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/chackworth3/media/DSC01264_zpsec1c3d41.jpg.html)
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Glad that you're doing this build along. My one glue up with a fiberglass bow went so bad that it's still painful to think about. It came out very straight but the lams for the back slid a good inch off center. Guess I was so preoccupied trying to keep the belly lams and glass from sliding down the fades that I didn't notice it. My form is for a hybrid and the difference in the reflex from one limb to the other made it impossible to tiller. Might just try the cable ties on my next attempt.
The one bright side was buying the lams and glass from Kenny, who is a great guy to deal with and took the time to answer all of my questions. Just have to get those lams locked down tight on my next one. :rolleyes:
Now off to the belt sanders to shape the riser...
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Once the riser is shaped I get after the overlays with some 80 and 120 grit to fade them into the glass...
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Once the riser and overlays are good I sand everything down with 120 up to 400 grit and wipe it clean with tack cloth n (http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/chackworth3/DSC01270_zps216de847.jpg) (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/chackworth3/media/DSC01270_zps216de847.jpg.html)
Now I get the draw weight and check the limb bend one more time...
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I spray a coat of Shellac on it and write the specs on it...
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I finish up with 3-5 coats of finish...\\
Well done! Very efficient.
Bonner
And here it is all finished up!
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Hope y'all like it!
It looks like you have a nice and efficient process. Good looking bow too.
-Jay
It looks like you have a nice and efficient process. Good looking bow too.
-Jay
Very nice.
You moved right along on that sucker.
That looks great. I like the braced shape. That handle overlay looks cool too.
Damn even you pro use that cheap excellent ridgid... still worry bout it not available on the european market :mad:
But you really did not only gave a good sight on the way you do it but an awesome bow, thank you for showing some of your techniques!
Nicely done!!! Is ther any way you would mind getting close up pictures of your finished handle... I love the contour of it and struggle bad when it comes to shaping. Thanks!!
Beautiful bow. :thumbsup:
Beautifully done!!! Make any lefties?
QuoteOriginally posted by recurve maine:
Beautifully done!!! Make any lefties?
I shoot lefty so I make them all the time:)
Nice job Chris!!
It takes me as long to type a build as it does you to make the bow!! LOL
QuoteOriginally posted by bowhntineverythingnh03743:
Nicely done!!! Is ther any way you would mind getting close up pictures of your finished handle... I love the contour of it and struggle bad when it comes to shaping. Thanks!!
I'm at work today but will try and get one tomorrow. Once you understand what your tools can and can't do and take your time, it becomes a lot easier
QuoteOriginally posted by kennym:
Nice job Chris!!
It takes me as long to type a build as it does you to make the bow!! LOL
Ha! I think the longest part on this one was waiting for the epoxy to cure in the oven!
Thanks for the kind words everybody
Beautiful Bows, I checked your site
Hey Chris I got a question (and maybe Kenny will have an answer too...) you took a-wood for the core, I havent worked with it so far but if it is same as dymondwood it shall be a bad core because of it`s weight?!
If it is only beech/maple dyed and glued (not phenolic soaked like dymondwood) as the european/finish CWP is I`d soon place an order at CWP...
(they told me their product is not like dymondwood because not phenolic soaked, and I`m working on a "panzerholz"(tankwood, bulletproof speakers desks, flooring for anti-mine-tanks etc..) delegnit riser at the moment- and this sux, very strong and heavy but a hell to work with...can`t imagine that you work such stuff that easy!)
If you like to check out CWP:
CWP-interesting stuff (http://cwp.fi/en/hunting-and-sports)
:rolleyes: maybe I could FIRST have asked google...
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=099911
But further opinions would be of interest too :)
Moe, the actionwood is very similar to actionboo. It is a great core wood in my opinion. Looks like the cwp is like actionwood
Nice bow and very informative build-along
Thanks Chris u guys helped me a lot- once more :)
Really like the strung profile!
Nice Work. Beautiful Bow.
Beautiful bow Chris!
I can't stop coming back to this thread....
Great thread. Thanks for sharing.
If I might ask one final question- what is that red box on the riser, shown where you cut the shelf with hacksaw? Is it for a square cut?
MoeM I think its just part of a clamp to hold the riser still while he cuts out the shelf :wavey:
:rolleyes: Dammit your right for sure...
:banghead:
:archer:
:clapper: :clapper:
A real beauty! :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by chackworth3:
QuoteOriginally posted by bowhntineverythingnh03743:
[qb] Nicely done!!! Is ther any way you would mind getting close up pictures of your finished handle... I love the contour of it and struggle bad when it comes to shaping. Thanks!! [/b]
Here is the close up. Sorry it took so long!
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You guys make this look easy. I guess that's the sign of someone with some real skills.
homebru
Great looking bow ~ a wood and d wood are really amazing looking. hmmmm has me second guessing my plans for my 1st glass bow. Thanks for a excellent build along, will really help me in the next couple of weeks.