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Title: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 20, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
In preperation for my upcoming St Judes build I decided to do a bowyer skills "warm up". I have been working on my 1 pc longbow design lately and i'm pretty happy with where it is right now. These are a quick easy build as the whole bow including tips and overlays is glued up in one shot and the belley side of the riser insert is a straight cut done on a tablesaw. I put the hose on the back and they glue up perfect. I lay a template on them, trace it and cut the bows out with a 6.5" thin kerf blade on my tablesaw. cuts like butte with no chatter. just use the beltsander to tiller. Its really quick. Maybe 6 hour / bow. Im gonna put beavertail handle wraps on these tomorrow.
The Actionwood bow is 52# @28" and 64" ntn. it has black glass and is kinda plain Jane. The other bow used up the last of a TX ebony log i've had for years. Thats why all the sapwood. Its got curly maple veneers and is 55#@28" and 62" ntn. Both have 6" tip wedges and 21" riser inserts. They seem pretty quick and are very quiet. I have migrated towards deeper stacks with narrower limbs and it really makes them quiet. Thanks for looking!

Bonner
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Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Trux Turning on May 20, 2013, 11:57:00 PM
A pair of  beauties right there!
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Troy D. Breeding on May 21, 2013, 08:04:00 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Igor on May 21, 2013, 08:28:00 AM
Excellent - really like the bow's profile...


thanks for sharing...


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Glenn
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 21, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: red hill on May 21, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
Sweet bows, Dan. I really like the maple.
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: cunruhshoot on May 21, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Awesome Dan - I would love to see a pic of your form to get a better visual of the hose on the back of the bow. I use the bingham form design for their 62" r/d hybrid. But I am wanting to experiement with some other ideas.
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: chackworth3 on May 21, 2013, 11:21:00 AM
Those are some good lookin bow right there!
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Post by: k-hat on May 21, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
Em R perty!
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 21, 2013, 12:48:00 PM
Thanks all. Cameron, I will post up some form pics tonight. The advantage of the hose on the back of the bow is that you can add all the tip and belly overlays at the initial glueup. It saves a lot of time.

Bonner
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 21, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Thanks all. Cameron, I will post up some form pics tonight. The advantage of the hose on the back of the bow is that you can add all the tip and belly overlays at the initial glueup. It saves a lot of time.

Bonner
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 21, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
Cameron,
Here is how the hose on back build works for me.
I use a Rockler jig to cut the angles for the riser insert first.
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same jig different angles cut out the belly section of the handle
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handle and insert after cutting and a little grinding on te back of the insert only to perfect fades
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Heres how they fit in the form. When I built the form I cut out a 24"x1.5" square on the belly of the handle. I made laminated oak blocks to fit against the handle on the same angle jig by matching the angles. this way I can change the riser insert anytime I want without building a new form.
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Here is the form assembled.
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notice the routered grooves with zip ties I use to hold the lams in place during glueup. The form is 2.24" wide and these are cut in to 1.5". the beauty of this form is there is no fitting the riser insert to the form and the overlays and tip overlays go on at the time of glueup. I get great glue lines every time too as there are no sweeping curves in the riser lams to worry about. It feels a like cheating as its so quick and easy.

Bonner
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: MoeM on May 21, 2013, 05:34:00 PM
Pretty cool! I love simple things with great effects- this handleinsert with straight bellyjoint is realy handy. Just as easy as a plam...
The ebony with sapwood looks fantastic!
Great bows for sure!
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Trapper Rob on May 21, 2013, 06:41:00 PM
Sweet bows
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Post by: cunruhshoot on May 21, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
Very Cool Dan! Thanks for taking the time to share. This gives me ideas of my own to try on my form to make it a little more adaptable to a variety of bow layups.
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 21, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
Thanks all. Over my handful of years building bows I have learned a lot about correcting mistakes and making stuff easier. Thats because I am careless and lazy.

Bonner
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Robertfishes on May 21, 2013, 09:06:00 PM
thanks for sharing, what a time saver! "careless and lazy"??..I don't think so
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: JJB on May 21, 2013, 09:41:00 PM
Very nice set up and bows!
-Jay
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Post by: kennym on May 21, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Very cool Dan, I'm study'n here!!  :D
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: MoeM on May 22, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
Hey Dan,
maybe a little foolish question, but do you see any problems with a straight section in the form to suit the straight insert and puting on the outer riser in a second glueup?
Title: Re: Couple longbows
Post by: Dan Bonner on May 22, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
Nope. I've done it that way too. Works fine. I just hate to heat them a second time. When I did that I used no heat to cure the glue on belly side of handle just give it a day to set up.

Bonner