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Title: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: mjwhitby on April 30, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
This is my first attempt at a short bendy handle bow. It is 50" NTN and pulls 55# at 26". Let me know what you think. I can use all the advise I can get as I have a lot to learn!
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Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: timbermoose on April 30, 2013, 11:44:00 PM
man!! that is absolutely gorgeous!! great job! if you get bored of it, send it my way.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: soy on May 01, 2013, 02:34:00 AM
I would say your first shot hit the mark   :archer2:
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: Bert Frelink on May 01, 2013, 07:33:00 AM
Beautiful work!!! Nicely done, if that is your first you did very well my friend.
Congratulations on a fine looking bow!!
Bert.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: BCWV on May 01, 2013, 08:02:00 AM
Wow!! That's nice!
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 01, 2013, 08:07:00 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: John Scifres on May 01, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
Very nice.  Only things I would recommend:  I would have a more circular tiller.  Midlimbs need to bend more.  Handle needs to bend less.  Also use a rope and pulley tillering system.  You'll get less set on your bows.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: LittleBen on May 01, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Looks excellent. maybe slightly stiff in the outer 1/3 but I'm really just saying that so you keep making more bows trying to improve. In reality that's as close to perfect as anyone gets. Great Job!
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: LittleBen on May 01, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
That's a heck of a fireplace BTW. Very nice as well.
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Post by: twitchstick on May 01, 2013, 08:41:00 AM
Very nice!
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Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on May 01, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
Looks great. Like that snakey osage.
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Post by: Igor on May 01, 2013, 10:48:00 AM
Great looking especially for your 1st!


thanks for sharing

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Glenn
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: Alexander13 on May 01, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
Awesome!! Do you have a picture of the profile unstrung to show the R/D? Just learning and I can't wait to try my first selfbow like this.

Joel
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: mjwhitby on May 01, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
Thank you so much for all the kind words. Ive learned so much from you all on this site. I would have to say the bug has bit me. All I can think about is building bows. I'm wanting to try some kind of backed bow like  bamboo and Osage or ipe.
Mr Scrifes what is it about the rope and pulley that gets less set. That's got me really intrigued. I definitely want to try that.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: Trapper Rob on May 01, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Nice
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: John Scifres on May 01, 2013, 01:01:00 PM
Tillering, by its very nature, is done to expose flaws in the way a bow is bending.  These flaws are made up of places where the bow is bending relatively too much or too little.  Those flaws can lead to damage of the structure of the wood if the bow-to-be is bent for too long or too far with the flaw present.  

A pulley system allows you to watch a bow bending just small amounts for short periods of time, leading to less damage of the structure of the wood.

Alternatively, systems where you pull a bow-to-be to a certain draw length and hold it there while you evaluate it exacerbate the damage by bending those flaws longer than necessary.

Ideally, we would cut the bow out and it would be perfectly tillered and at the exact draw weight we want before it bends at all.  Since we function in reality though we have to minimize the negatives of our process.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: TimBoA on May 01, 2013, 01:24:00 PM
"All I can think about is building bows."  You are in the right spot for sure!  

That bow looks great.  Everything about the finish details is perfect.  I especially like the tracks though!
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: Draffish on May 01, 2013, 04:51:00 PM
great looking bow
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: mjwhitby on May 01, 2013, 04:57:00 PM
Thanx for the info Mr Scifres. That make a lot of sense. Gonna give it a shot on the next one.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: red hill on May 01, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Nice bow, MJ! I like the artwork as well.
Where do you live in AR? I'm in El Dorado near the Louisiana state line.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: mjwhitby on May 01, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
I live in Paragould just north of Jonesboro where I work.
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: talkingcabbage on May 01, 2013, 10:58:00 PM
It ain't worth the wood it's made from.  You should send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you.   :bigsmyl:  

Just kidding.  Man, that is one awesome bow!    :thumbsup:   I just hope my first try at an osage D bow comes out looking that good!    :clapper:
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: dfrois on May 02, 2013, 06:03:00 AM
Man, I wish I could do that! It's gorgeous!

DF
Title: Re: First shot at short osage bendy handle
Post by: Pat B on May 07, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
With a rope and pulley tillering system your bow doesn't stay in a static position while you view it. That static hold puts a lot of unnecessary strain on a wood bow.
When I work a bendy handle bow I try to get the mid limbs bending well then bring the bend back into the handle. I like to feel a bit of give in the handle right as I hit full draw.