Hey guys-
So today I started on a 60 ttt BBO that I had major problems with. The tiller was way off and not to mention that the boo split in six different spots from being left in the garage during the cold (my bad). I forgot that it was out there and when I went to look and bring it in. Over night it CRACKED CRACKED CRACKED.
I spent the day in the garage removing the bamboo from the osage. I got the osage even throughout each limb to around 1/4 inch. My plan which I have been talking to the Ol MIGHTY ROY!!! is to add some osage lams that I got from Guru Kenny onto the osage and then add a new piece of boo.
Here is the osage and handle area all cleaned up.
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So my next plan of attack is to glue on and slice the osage lams... Get that shaped out some and then add the new piece of boo. I thought this because the belly osage is already shaped. Adding a new lam and then a new shaped piece of boo onto them would be a difficult challenge to make sure everything is lined up.
What are your guys thoughts on this plan of attack???
I hope to have this bow fixed and ready for May turkey season. Thanks for the look guys!!
Justin
Justin-that will work just fine.It would not be that hard to line up all three peices to glue them all at once.Shape them out,Glue them up and put clamps and blocks on the sides to keep them lined up then put it in your form and clamp it down.I do trilams like that all the time.Good luck and post your progress---Joe
I would be sure to glue in about 3" of reflex with those osage slats.
Thanks guys.. I never thought of cutting them all out and lining them up. I will have to give that a shot... I plan on gluing up about 3.5 inches of reflex in them!!!
Thanks guys... Just waiting on the glue to arrive and then we will be clamping them together!!!
This bow had about an inch of reflex in it before I took the boo off. I am suprised on how much the limbs dropped. I can deffinately see how the bamboo holds the reflex into the wood. Kinda cool to see though first hand!
It's the glue joint that holds the reflex, Justin. Just glue her back together with the reflex in the form. And go slow and easy.
OHHHH Wise ol man.... Tanky Tanky LMAO... your the best Roy and so easy to jab at!!!
My #1 bow is a similar fix. Put on a little thicker piece of bamboo than I usually do and had to drop a bit of poundage after glue up.
I can vouch for a full length lam of walnut. My favorite bow has one. Lively bow!
Good idea on the walnut and if I had some I would swap that in instead of the osage lam. Since I don't lol... orange it is. I got the bamboo thinned down well but want to run over it some more so that i can make sure it is completely uniform. It is real close right now but I think that I can do better work with just another day on it. We shall see... It is killing me because I am just waiting on my glue to show up in the mail before I continue working on this.
Don't forget to cook or heat up the boo to remove moisture.
When they come in it is,usually very high in moisture content.
Well tomorrow will be the day that I get this bow into glue up. My Unibond 800 finally came in. My boo is preped and ready. Tomorrow I will cut the new lam to bow shap and then put it all together with some tape then start clamping her up. I will post some pictures tomorrow before and after the glue up....
Wish me luck!!! :pray:
Good luck & God speed!
Good luck justin.You will be fine.
Well it is all clamped up. I took my time lining everything up. The lam and bamboo is slightly wider anyways so I will be able to thin it down to the belly and handle. There is 3.5 inches of reflex hoping to keep around 3 or 2.5 inches.
The Unibond 800 glue works just like Urac which is awesome but it definately sets up a whole lot quicker. It took me some time to clamp everything up and I could tell I needed to work quicker. Now the directions say that the lowest heat being 70 deg will cure in 3 hours. I don't doubt it but I am going to let it rest now at least 10 hours and then see what the glue on the sides of the bow look like.
Here is a picture of the dry run....
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All clamped up in the basement now....
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It is definately going to be thicker than needed so some weight will need to be taken out but I think that I can get it back up to around 50#..
We shall see in the next couple days!!!!
By golly Buckwheat who learnt ya ta do all that fancy glue up stuff? Looks great Justin. And the Unibond features sound good, can't wait to try some.
Wish my glue-ups were that neat. I end up with glue all over every thing!
Looks good, Justin.
Ya gotta wrap the bow with plastic wrap before ya clamp it, Red..
I didn't even wrap this bow with plastic this time because of the three pieces I would need to move and get em all lined up.
Some old fart gives great advice once before Roy. Guess I paid attention when he speaks... Athough he is goofy as hell looking and a weakling.
Can you believe he has this so call thumpin list but complains that 55# is TOO MUCH FOR MY $*%!!!
LOL....HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Ya should have had them all lined up in the dry run and marked, and then wrapped with tape after applying glue and then wrapped in plastic, but ya did ok I guess:)
Not listen up smart A$$. I have 3 black belts and have no problem whoopen up on some cop:) And I pulled the 55 pounds. Now don't make me make a road trip up there tonight and lay a thumpin on ya, son:)
Now that what I am talking about ROY... BRING IT OL MAN!!!!
So out of the clamps and the sides all cleaned up for the most part. Need to make some minor adjustments on them to even the taper but all and all not to shabby. Definately a lot thicker so I am starting back to square one with tillering. Hoping thats not a huge problem.
My only hick up was for some reason one side of the glue up held the reflex nicely but the other flattened out. I hope this isn't going to ruin this bow but we shall see by what you guys say.
Just a few pictures
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Glue lines came out Purdy!
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Is the lost of the reflex in one limb a huge problem or during tillering I will just have to adjust the stronger limb???
Ouch, that must have come from the tillering you did before. I would make the limb with the more reflex the bottom limb. It's going to receive more stress when shooting the bow. I'd tiller the bow for 1/8th pos tiller. You prolly will be taking wood off the bottom limb as you tiller. String her up and see what it looks like with a 3 inch brace.
Justin is it just the picture, or is one limb a bit shorter than the other? The limb with more reflex looks a lot shorter. Could be my old eyes too.
Well I finally finished her up last night. I had her tillered to 50# but then developed splinters along one edge from grain run out. I retillered her to 46# @28 inch draw, 60 inches ttt and have had no issue yet. Here are some pictures for ya.... Have to wait on full draw until I have someone home to help me with the picture. Will be chasing turkeys around this spring with this one! Comments are welcomed... thanks guys for all your help... Specially our Ol' Grumpy Thumpin Fart we loved named Roy... Couldn't want any other master to learn from!! Kenny for the great supply of osage needed to fix her!
Thanks!!
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File that one under nicely done justin.way to stay at it--Joe
Thanks Joe I am very happy with how this one turned out... and to think I almost threw this one in the trash.
Justin, this hain't no chit, when I looked at those pictures, I got goose bumbs from excitement of how well it looks. You did one hell of a job Dude. ^5, Ole Fart:)
Wow Roy that truly means a ton coming from ya! Even tho I'd still take ya any day Lmao
I've jumped over boys your size just to get to a good fight:)
That was a good one Roy... I got nothin for ya... To tired lol
Man thats nice
Thanks David...shot it for two hours today with no issues so far. Need to match arrows to the bow now tho
2013 Turkey Season openned up in New Hampshire today. Thought I would just post a quick pic of the bow in the thread and how I hit the mark this morning... Find the story in the highlight thread later on...
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18.5#, 8.75 inch beard, 1 inch spurs... first longbeard ever and with my own bow to boot!!!
Congrats Justin... ^5
Way to go Justin!! :thumbsup:
There's a story with a happy ending. Nice!
Nice job!
-Jay
Congrats on a great achievement.
Excellent work on bow and bird!! :thumbsup: Bob
:clapper: Way to go Justin!!
A turkey with a bow you made - not many can say they've done that.
Hey Justin!! Way to go buddy! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Like John said, not many have done that!! :clapper:
Thank you all for the kind words. It was great to finally accomplish this task. You all have helped me over my short time to get where I am with all the tips and tricks of the trade. Cudos to all of ya!