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Title: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 18, 2012, 07:21:00 AM
So my wife has decided she wanted to get into archery. So I decided to build her a bow, well the first one ended up to long and to heavy so I am working on a new one.


Amboyna burl veneer for under the glass
   (http://imageshack.us/a/img834/1701/20121208112321229.jpg)
laminated on the core strips
   (http://imageshack.us/a/img541/2250/20121217180151896.jpg)
close up of the seams
 (http://imageshack.us/a/img405/9458/20121217180200383.jpg)

bow specs:

recurve limbs - osage core with veneer overlay under glass and .002 taper

riser - Bubinga with osage accents and Amboyna inlay
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: b.glass on December 18, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
OOOO! That should be preeettty!
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: 4runr on December 18, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
Can't wait to see how this turns out, Justin!!
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: rmorris on December 18, 2012, 11:14:00 AM
Wow! I love Amboyna burl, just a little pricey.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: D on December 18, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
wow that's pretty stuff
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Roy from Pa on December 18, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
Awesome wood, can't wait to see the finished bow.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 18, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Thanks everyone I am gonna be working on it this weekend hopefully after I get my rush order custom knives done for Christmas.

Kenny  ;)

Rmorris I actually got a pretty good deal on the burl veneer but I had to order 14 sq ft so I have a bunch left over, so I'm trying figure out a few projects for it the sheets are 12 x 18.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Mad Dog on December 18, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
Sweet looking woods.Did you get a hose setup? If not i got one for a bingham's takedown recurve someplace you can borrow if needed. I'm south of Ashley about 10 miles away from ya.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Trux Turning on December 18, 2012, 10:19:00 PM
That's going to be a beauty!! Those extra sheets will make a nice table top.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: SwampEagle on December 19, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
Amboyna Burl, Wow!  You are wise to seal the edges.  I used to be heavy into woodturning.  Unsealed, some of the burls would throw chunks as soon as you turned on the lathe.  LOL!   That must have been a huge one.  Wish you had a picture of it!  Gorgeous stuff.  Thanks for sharing.

Take care,
Matt
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: tenbrook on December 19, 2012, 08:57:00 AM
Why are you laminating them to the core.  Could you explain more about how/why you do this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 19, 2012, 09:19:00 AM
Thanks everybody i am hoping it turns out

Maddog you have a pm

Tenbrook the amboyna veneer is only. 025 thick and is also brittle so i laminated them with a flat press and smooth on to the outside core laminations so when i do my layup i dont have to worry about the amboyna
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 19, 2012, 09:22:00 AM
Because when i glued it i had tape on one side to hold it all together and keep the seam tight then after it was cured i was able to run it through the wide belt to even everything out
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JJB on December 19, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
That's going to be a pretty one, looking forward to following your progress.
-Jay
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: johnny girardi on December 27, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Maybe if it comes out real nice looking it could come out to heavy also like last one. hint hint
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 28, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
Ok so There have been some design changes she likes the way the pronounced reflex/deflex bows look and shoot so I am going to make that instead.

I was shooting for a 58"-60" amo length with 35-40lbs
@ her 24" draw

Q #1- can I make a takedown pronounced r/d @ 58"-60" amo or should I shoot for 64" amo length

The reason I ask is I got some glass ( thanks  4runr ) that is 52" long so I can get 2 26" pieces out of them and conserve glass or I am gonna loose about 20" off of each piece

Limb specs:

.030 glass
.090 parallel
.070 taper with .002 taper
.090 parallel
.030 glass  

hoping for around 35-40 lbs @24" so we will see gonna glue up in the morning
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on December 30, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
I just pulled the first limb out of the form and it looks pretty good and have decided the air hose pressure method is so much better.

profile shot
 (http://imageshack.us/a/img685/3724/20121229231556720.jpg)

close up
 (http://imageshack.us/a/img803/7817/20121229231710667.jpg)

I am getting ready to go glue up the other limb now.So if anybody has any input on my length questions in my last post I would appreciate it.

Also what limb profile should I use a straight taper or a curved taper from the fade.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Troy D. Breeding on December 30, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
Looking Good!!!
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on January 01, 2013, 01:10:00 AM
Well worked yesterday and today on the bow ( now named "Golden Sunrise") and got the limbs glued up and the riser profiled, now I have to drill them and then start shaping everything.

Gratuitous profile shot:

  (http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5329/2013010100420948.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/2013010100420948.jpg/)

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So before I screw it up does any one have an opinion on whether I should straight taper the limbs or do a slight arch taper on them?
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: rmorris on January 01, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
That is going to be beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Mad Dog on January 01, 2013, 02:44:00 PM
Bow looks good i really like the wood combination. Looks like your form and hoses worked out well.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on January 01, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
thanks rmorris

Maddog: Yeah the hose worked great I had to rebuild the valve stem it was bent but I had extras.

So I have got the limbs mounted and shaped but I think it is a little heavy like 55-60 lbs how much weight can I lose by narrowing and trap.ping the limbs shooting for 35-40 lbs ish
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: jsweka on January 01, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
I dropped a one piece longbow 10# by narrowing and trapping the limbs.  It got pretty narrow and I wouldn't want to try dropping it any more.  You're looking at a 15# reduction, so that's certainly pushing it.  Maybe a better option would be to finish the bow as is and make another lighter set of limbs for it.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: Trux Turning on January 01, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
If you have enough width you can narrow it and round over the edges to get to your weight but you need to be careful with the limb stability- John's option is a good idea too ; )
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: kennym on January 01, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
Did you go with the straight taper or curved edges? If you went with curved taper, you have some wiggle room there to lose some.
Title: Re: bow for my wife (updated with profile shot)
Post by: JkChenault on January 01, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
Well I had went with a curved taper so I straightened it and narrowed it down to 1 1/2" @ the fades and 1/2" at the tips and I'm at 50lbs @28" draw so roughly 40lbs @ 24" draw for the wife so im pretty good.

So now im having trouble with the tiller the top limb is straight when stung @ brace and the bottom is a D shape so just need to fine tune it and see how it looks.