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Title: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on October 30, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
I need some assistance, have a customer wanting to make a 50s style curve , 60" long, lets say 45# @ 28" ,  got any ideas on stack and taper rate?

Thanks much,
kenny
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: jess stuart on October 30, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Hopefully Trux will chime in, he has built several of those. I have one similar to the one Trux builds,  but I have it loaned out at the moment.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on October 30, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
Thanks Jess!!
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Trux Turning on October 30, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Kenny here's what works with mine. Its got a 20" riser- 1 taper at. 002, 2 parallels and. 040 glass with a total stack of 310. Everything 1.5" to start- this puts me close to 45#s@28.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on October 30, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Thanks David!! What if you wanted 1.75" width?
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on October 30, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
Did you by chance do a build on this one?  :)
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Trux Turning on October 30, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by kennym:
Thanks David!! What if you wanted 1.75" width?
I'd have to guess less than 310 for the stack-lol- (sorry not much help with that width)
This one also has a straight taper from the fades to the tips like a long bow.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: JJB on October 31, 2012, 06:57:00 AM
Kenny - I made a couple in this style at 1.75".  They were 58" bows and had a 21 inch riser.  A stack of .235 made a 50# bow.  I had one taper at .002 and one parallel.
-Jay
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Living_waters on October 31, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
This is one I built it is a little shorter 56", 1.75",18" riser. .244 total stack .030 glass back, .050 glass on belly, one parallel, one .001 taper. 51# 29". I made the form off of a Pearson

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Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: bjansen on October 31, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Kenny, based on my calculation...if Trux's .310 will get you 45# with a 1.5" lam width, a 1.75" lam width (with the same .310 stack) should yield a 52.6# bow.  

Thus using the old lam stack calculator, a .295 lam stack would be needed to get you 45# with the 1.75" width lam, (same riser and taper rate as mentioned by Trux).  

As we all know mileage varies with different forms, different bowyer styles, etc.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on October 31, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Hey Brad,

Can you run it for 65# @ 28 with a 1.75 " limb width? Little mistake on weight.

Thanks a bunch guys!!
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: virgil.v on November 01, 2012, 05:37:00 AM
Hi Kenny, for me:
60" bow
Limb: 1 7/16" - 11/16"  
Butt stack: .320 = 45# +/- AMO/ATA @ 28 "
Total taper: .004
Virgil.


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Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Trux Turning on November 01, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
Virgil- awesome bows!! Got to have some more details on that take down system on the last one.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Walt Francis on November 01, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
Robertson connexion is my guess.  I have a Schafer  longbow with the connection modified and inlaid into the handle that is super slick.  By inlaying it,  Dave was able to put overlays on and it is 90% hidden.  No need for a leather wrap like above.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: virgil.v on November 02, 2012, 04:21:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Walt Francis:
Robertson connexion is my guess.  I have a Schafer  longbow with the connection modified and inlaid into the handle that is super slick.  By inlaying it,  Dave was able to put overlays on and it is 90% hidden.  No need for a leather wrap like above.
Trux, exactly what Walt has explain.
But after many year of using the connexion hinge I change for the sleeve who is 100% hidden.
The only "problem" with the hinge is that you can do the best hiding job you can, it will always be seen.
ps: Sorry Kenny ;-)

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Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Jack Guard on November 03, 2012, 06:55:00 PM
Holly Mackerel Virgil, those are absolutely Beautiful.  I am a hugh 50's style recurve fan and they are very elegant.  

I am keeping my eyes on this one.  A 50's recurve is on my to do list.
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on November 03, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
No problem Virgil!! Beautiful bows! Thanks for the input guys!!
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: bjansen on November 04, 2012, 08:06:00 PM
Sorry for the delay Kenny.....when I run it at 65# @ 28" I am getting a .335 but thickness
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: kennym on November 05, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
No prob Brad!! Thank you very much buddy!!
Title: Re: Help on a 50s curve
Post by: Bob Sarrels on November 07, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
Kenny,  we build an old style 56" recurve called the Wildcatt,  one paralell and one taper at .200.  250 gives us about a 48 lb bow.  Don't know if this helps but it might.  You might have to work the math on a 60"/  Bob.