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Thanks to a special friend from Bend, Oregon. I now have in my possession my first Yew Stave ever. I have been building nothing but BBO Bows for 10 years. So this will be uncharted waters for this ole boy, and any advice will be appreciated greatly.

The stave has natural deflex, as you can see from the pictures below.

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The sap wood to heart wood ratio looks good to me as it is now. But what do I know? I am shooting for a 40 to 45 pound bow at 27.5 inches of draw. The stave right now it 70 inches long. I'm thinking a 66 inch bow is what I want.

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Now I have two choices here in my opinion. Leave the natural deflex as it is, and induce reflex from the mid limbs out to the tips.

Or, heat the handle section and clamp the stave down flat to make it a straight stave, then do the reflex from mid limbs out.

I think I would be better off leaving the natural deflex alone, and adding the reflex from mid limb on out. Plus I love flipping the tips, which really doesn't have anything to do with adding reflex I guess.

Since it's a one piece stave, I could do a bend in the handle bow, heck it's already got that now I suppose:) But I have never done a bendy handle bow either! And at 40 to 45 pounds, I don't see the handle area getting all that much stress anyways being if I make it 66 inches long... And the way I layout my riser section, I keep what ever my flare width is, the same width out another 6 inches, then do my straight taper to the limb tips.

Now how wide should I make the flares, and how narrow should I make the tips? On BBO's I make the flares 1 1/4 and hold that out 6 more inches, then taper to 1/2 at the tips.

Anyway, that special friend in Bend, Oregon is Old Boy Keenan. Keenan, I can't thank you enough for such a great Yew Stave.. Roy

The bark missing on the back really threw me off. At first I thought he scored it across the back as I seen how straight the bark was cut off in places. So I asked him about it. Seems Yew bark is different and it breaks off like that from floor tillering the stave:) Told ya I was a dumb a$$ with Yew Staves:) Anyways I was amazed how I could peel the bark off with my finger nail...

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nice stave, you have so much experience with r/d bows, if it were my stave i would just reflex the limbs from midway and out. i personally would keep the belly flat- to help minimise set. remember the sap wood can be compromised and still work- unlike osage.
i used heat gun and cooking oil for all my bending, i like to make most my bows to bend through the handle- just reduces any stress at all in the limbs.
yew likes to stay at about 12% mc- dont let it dry out too much in your shop etc. it will become brittle and shatter.
on my most recent bow- as soon as i had the mc where i wanted it, i sealed the entire bow, and if i was going to not work it for a while- then i would re-seal the sides and belly again, right at the end i stripped off all the old verathane-with a cabinet scraper and sandpaper, and then finished it up.
i also heat treated the belly- that should help some- but remember- to NOT seal it afterwards so that it can re- hydrate. if you are in a super dry area- maybe store it in the bathroom while it rehydrates.
best of luck- i am sure there will be lots of input from alot of other folks here with a lot more experience than me.
cheers
wayne

i made my last bow, 3/8 tips,a smidge over 1" wide handle, fades about 2" long and at the widest 1,1/4"- pyramid design.
just what worked for me.

Roy, if you're going to make a bend-through handle, you won't HAVE flares and dips. A simple bend-through the handle flatbow/longbow tapers from the tips, right to full width at the handle. Dips and flares are incorporated into bows to stiffen the handle area and narrow the arrow pass, but you have to have enough wood, in depth, and width, to pull it off. I don't know if you have that with this bow. If there's not enough depth of wood in the handle area to make it considerably stiffer than the limbs just outside the handle area, then there's not enough to make dips, which in turn means that if you cut-in flares, you'll make it too weak there. So you may have to forget the flares and dips... or make them very, VERY subtle. How wide is it in the middle? How thick?

Your right on the no flares for a bendy Jeff. Never even thought about that last night when I wrote that:) It is 1 1/2 wide and 1 thick at the center of the stave.

66" sounds good roy. Keep the 1 1/2" width all the way to mid limb,then start your taper to the nocks. So,no flares or dips. But do mark out a handle area measurements(4" handle,and 1 1/2" to each side of that).that's just so you know where not to scrape. With it being 1 " thick in the handle it'll prob be a slight bendy at best,and is prob your best option there with it.

On the shape I would put it over a form that gives ya an even 2" of reflex thru the whole stave. U can shellac the whole thing n steam it,or use oil n dry heat. Get that R/D laminate shape outta your head ole man,your making a yew longbow....lol.


Oh and one more thing,make sure you get a nice even floor tiller before you put it over a form in case ya didn't know.  ;)

Roy, this was the first yew bow I made a few years ago. It is just over 64"t/t, about 1 1/2" at the handle, bends through the handle and pulls 47#@26". This bow has only hand rubbed bear grease finish and Am. bison tip overlays.
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Roy, this is one that had about seven inches of natural deflex, so I just heated the mid limbs with oil and worked great for a nice R/D. I do recommend tip overlays as yew is soft.
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WOW Keenan, that is sharp. I can see mine looking just like that.. :)

First of all............trade it for some osage. Then get started on your first "yew" bow! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

keenen how much reflex did you put in to that bow, and how much did you lose during tillering and shooting- it sure is a beauty!

Don't worry Pearly Boy, I'm going to finish you a   BBO before I start on this Yew Stave:)

Fujimo; I had the tips about 1.5"  past the handle and they settled just a hair under the  back of the handle after tillering her in. Should have gone a touch more in the middle on the heat bends.

Well Ole Roy Boy will take his 2.5" then:)

Have the stave cut out to bow shape, it's 1 3/8th wide at handle, tapered to 1 inch at mid limb, then  tapered to 5/8th at the tips for now.. When done I want the tips 1/2 wide. Right now it's about a 100 pound bow. So my question is, should I reduce wood from the belly or the back, or both? I don't know squat about making a yew bow:) Should I induce the reflex now at mid limb or wait till I get some more wood off? Is there a ratio of sap wood to heart wood I should follow? I want a round belly, correct?

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Roy, start reducing the stave from the belly. It looks like you have the right amount of sapwood.
I'd do like Keenan did in the bow he posted. That is gonna be a sweet shooting bow!

Rasped my butt off tonight:) Have some sort of bending going on. But I have a long way to go:) Want to get her bending a little more before I induce the reflex. It's still an 80 pound bow:) I need to get more  wood off closer to the handle.

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Looking good Roy. What do ya mean you have allot more to take off?  :laughing:  
In all seriousness be carefull when she starts to drop weight it can sometimes happen fast.

If it was me, I wouldn't let the sapwood to heartwood ratio get too out of wack. If it appeared that it would go much beyond 3 to 1, I'd consider thinning the sapwood. What are your sapwood and heartwood thicknesses now?

I can't tell in the pictures, Roy. Is it faceted yet? or still square/rectangle?

Don't forget, when you round off the belly, you're gonna lose some weight.

Bowjunkie is right you will lose weight when you roll the edges on the belly and back.  I know that you are accustom to removing sapwood on Osage, but keep in mind that yew sapwood is actually good and the excellent natural backing. One of the advatages of yew is you don't have to chase a ring or spend allot of effort removing the sapwood. With 1/4" sapwood you are fine, and chasing a ring on yew sapwood is near impossible especially with that high of ring count. Though if you do decided to reduce chasing a ring isn't required. You just don't want to violate allot in one spot.

Sap wood to heart wood is like 2 heart wood to 1 sap wood at the tips, little more heart wood through the limbs though. I already have the belly rounded, I did facets on the back after I took those pictures of the bending last night. I don't want to take off any sap wood on the back or I will lose the character of the back of the bow. But I'll follow you two guys advice.

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Spent a lot of time on this Yew Stave today. I hope I am going in the right direction.

I heated the mid limb area and induced reflex in both limbs. I used  a 2 inch block at the tips.

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i  found that i got at least 50% springback with the yew- quite unlike the osage.
be interresting to see what you get?

It looks OK , I guess.................................................  :laughing:

I just called the airlines. Wanted to book a flight to Linneus, Mo tonight. They said I gotta wait a few days. So Stay Sharp Kenny, ya get to hunt a couple more days, Son:)

looking good Ol Roy ! Can't wait to see what you end up with on her.

Me either Kris, this is all new to me:) But I am having fun.

Roy, Flip her over and support where necessary then give her a good heating on the belly.(I almost made myself blush!) Not to induce color but heat her up good and let her cool over night.
 Even though the two woods are completely different I found yew to manipulate as well as osage with heat.   ...actually I'd get her tillered out a bit more them put the heat to her to set the reflex. I think it is time for long string tillering too.

I hope you didn't heat the sapwood,that wood be a big no no...it looks like it....unless you heated the belly first unclamped then clamped it down. Ill heat yew up just to the point of where you start to see a color change on the belly while its already clamped down on a form.

The heat gun was pointed down so the heat bounced off the table under the belly. After it was hot I clamped it down. I never put heat directly on the sap wood.  I left it clamped all night and just checked it. Now it's got less deflex and hardly any reflex. I will have to induce reflex again. Now that I think about it, I had a brain fart. Instead of clamping the bow flat at the handle, I should have left the handle off the work bench and clamped the belly at mid limb flat, DUH... I'm thinking after all the heat corrections, I'd better let this bow sit some place where it's a little damper for a week or two.

Takes a bit more to get the heat to take in Yew for me. I pull it farther past where I want the heat to take it over say Osage or even white wood like Hackberry. It's pretty stubborn and needs a bit more coaxing to get it to stay ...  Nice piece of yew Roy,,,, sap to heart ratio looks great!!!

Kipper I found out what you mean about Yew wanting to spring back from reflex induction, the hard way:)

Tonight I had another reflex go around with this Yew Stave. I'm thinking I might have my head screwed on straight this time:) I moved my little end blocks in towards the riser, after I heated it and clamped her down. I kept sliding them in till I measured 3 inches from the bottom of the limb tip to the bench. I also glued on the black buffalo horn tip over lays tonight. I hope in the morning I have more reflex in her, as she is still clamped up. This Yew Selfbow stuff is all new to me. I feel like a rookie, LOL! Now another question here. Since I have heat treated this stave 3 times, should I let it sit a while to gain more moisture back in her before tillering it on the tree?

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I'm no expert Roy but yes if it were me I'd let it set for a few days before I went to bending it.

You got me interested in seeing just how much of that bend you keep....  guess it looks OK for a Rookie   :biglaugh:

Roy here is a pic of the stave of the R/D bow I showed earlier on this thread.The first showing amount of natural deflex. Then showing the bending set up. At this point in time I had not learned to use rubber pads to cushion the back of the stave, but I do now, and suggest doing it on this type of set up.The beauty of this, is that you can heat, then tighten the clamps, then heat and take a bit further to what you want.Then when I hit the point that I like, I do a complete and slow "deep heat" of the whole limb, directly on the belly. Excess heat blows on past so as not to cook the back of the stave. I get very little spring back this way.
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I gotta make me a caul like that, Keenan. I guess I can live with the reflex I got.

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That is actually looking very good Roy. Not bad for a rooky southern boy  :bigsmyl:

Thanks Keenan.. And you must have skipped school when they taught about north and south.. I'm a Northern Yankee Boy:)

Now should I let this stave sit for a few days or so before I start tillering, because of the heat applied to it?

Northern Boy? really? I guess I forgot where ya live and it's just all that good ol boy humor that fooled me   :laughing:  
Yes most certainly wait at least a day before tillering

Ok, the rh in my shop is around 60. I'll give her a few days..

Yankee Smankee you must be a Roy Neck  :)

That looks great Roy...  I think that's gonna finish out real nice, I mean OK

Yea that ol Royneck is gonna be Ok

Roughed out sanded the horn tip overlays today. Going to let her sit another day or two, then get her on the tree.....

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This is so cool,  Thank you.....

This is just like watching your child being born.  Kinda gets you all excited wondering what she'll look like!  :bigsmyl:

great build Roy!   makes me wished I had bid harder on the yew staves at teh P&Y banquet last spring in MN.  

Heard we have some on Prince of Wales island...might have to make a bear hunt wood gather trip out of it now  ;) .

I had a real cute and smart*** comment to make about Roy birthing a child, but I can't afford to be on any lists this fall!
Instead, I'll just enjoy the thread and learn through Roy's experience with the yew.
Lookin' good, Roy neck. And thanks for straightening Keenan out about North-n-South.    :goldtooth:

LMAO Red. Go ahead and let her rip, what's a little ole thumpen list anyways? :)

Sanded up the horn tip over lays and have the string grooves in too. But I have a problem, this stave lost most of the reflex I put in it. I need to make a caul like Keenan or adapt something to get some good reflex in her. I will lay her on her back and get her belly all hot and lubed up, then put the clamps to her, just like Pat suggested.. LMAO But I kin do that:)

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QuoteFrom Roy From PA
"I will lay her on her back and get her belly all hot and lubed up, then put the clamps to her, just like Pat suggested.. LMAO But I kin do that:)"

You cranking up the Barry White music on that yellow radio in the window?   :saywhat:  

ps: great info for soon to be newbie. Just hope it ain't that addictive. Wife may get jealous.

You can tiller that out as is and end up with about a inch of follow,which is fine in my book, but maybe not yours. You need to do as Keenan showed you and you'll get better results,and it'll drive the heat deeper. I have a half caul that wood work perfectly for what your trying to do. If your not in a hurry or got some spare time this weekend I could come out n give ya hand n use my caul, n show ya how its done..lol.

If not,ill just sit back n keep watching the entertainment    :campfire:

Take your pick, Saturday or Sunday? I hate bows with string follow:)

Looking good Roy!!!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:

Sundays good fur me...pm sent  ;)

Sunday it is, pm sent back.

Any body else wanna join Chris and I for a little Bownanza this Sunday at my Bow Shop? Your more than welcome.

If I was closer I would be there...what knowledge I could learn from

The more the merrier    :bigsmyl:

Wonder if Ole Pearly Drummer Boy would come out, Chris? We could teach him how to make bows:)

I doubt it Roy. I tried to teach him once and he was to stubborn to listen   :knothead:

Stubborn indeed friends! Plus I have no use for pine wood bows.....if it aint yellow it aint good bow wood! Just do me a favor and wear safety glasses so you dont get hurt when it explodes into 100 pieces on the floor.

What's the matter Drums???  No guts no glory !!

Besides I'm betting this one will stay together even though a glue guy built it   :eek:

Kip what's ya mean by glue guy? Ya trying to make the top O the thumpen list again son?  :)  

Ole Pearly Boy is skeered to come out here and make a real bow:) But he may come out this winter for another Bownanza... When he does, me and him are gonna arm wrastle:)

Black Bird, the wife is going away for the weekend, so your gonna have to eat my cooking on Sunday:) How does slow cooked over night, hot sausage, peppers, and onions sound on sausage buns?

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Black Bird, the wife is going away for the weekend, so your gonna have to eat my cooking on Sunday:) How does slow cooked over night, hot sausage, peppers, and onions sound on sausage buns?

Sounds like some good ole tasty "burgh" food.. Sounds like a good ole time to me

"How does slow cooked over night, hot sausage, peppers, and onions sound on sausage buns? "


Better get the Depends out.....  :laughing:

Does Puffs tissues with lotion come in a roll?

I see there are a couple more boys shooting to be # 1 on the thumpen list!

There is a simple solution for yunzs girls:)     :laughing:  

 http://www.preparationh.com/

Ok ol Roy you boys have had enough time for the belly rubs and slow cooking  :laughing:  ,,,,,,,,,give us and update, How is she doing?  :dunno:

Keenan, it's tomorrow we heat her up ole boy. It's Saturday night here my friend..   :laughing:  

I will post pictures of the progress tomorrow evening...

Oops Got a day ahead somewhere  :saywhat:

Woke up this morning and the whole house just smells great. Shame some of ya live too far away:) Chris should be here in an hour, gonna be some bow maken going on today here:) Ya Baby.........

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Only 6   :confused:    :confused:  I was coming up But there's not enough food 4 u then   :goldtooth:    :biglaugh:  C u later Honey do list    :dunno:

LOL, 15 in there...

Yew two have fun today Roybert.

Ol Roy buddy, If I did live closer and were to help eat such a creation as that, Your house would definitely have a whole new smell  :campfire:   Have a fun day and keep us updated.

That was funny Keenan!!!!!!!!!!!! It cant possibly stink anymore than the ol' coot already does!

I got heartburn just from looking at that pic Roy.  Once you get off the can, post some pics of your progress.-

LOL, you guys:)
Chris and I had a fun day, we lost his BBY at glue up, it broke at a knot. We got him a BBO glued up after that. We also got some reflex in my yew stave.

Yew before we did the reflex.

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Chris sanding the boo.

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My yew in form.

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Chris BBO.

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Yew after reflex.

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Good times indeed...thanks pal.    :bigsmyl:

does that right limb have a tad more reflex in it that the other- or is it just an "optical dillusion"

:clapper:    :clapper:  Well done guys!

Yes it does Wayne, just how it came out. We did both limbs the same in the form

Now that's some ReeeeeFlex!!!

Dang Roy excuse me got to make a trip to the kitchen that batch O sausage made me hungry   :bigsmyl:

she gonna be kick*ss

Thanks, I hope so. I fugger she will end up with 1 1/5 to 2 inches of reflex after tiller and shot in. Only time will tell, gonna let her sit for a few days to pick up some moisture.

Might need to set for a week or so, just to dispell the gas from that dinner you made  :laughing:    :deadhorse:

Keenan, don't make me come out there ole boy:) But I gotta tell yunzs, I been eating sausage for two days now, and today the gas expulsion is really BAD. Been driving with the windows down all morning   :)

That looks better now, Roy. Is everything still in alignment side to side?

Yes it is Jeff. I'm giving it a few days to pick up some moisture it may have lost from the heat gun.

"Been driving with the windows down"  Roy, roll them windows up ol boy, Ya don't want to cause a massive hole in the ozone layer do ya?  :laughing:

Lookn sweet Roy, you're making me wanna get my hands on some yew!  Can't wait to see how she turns out:)

I'm thinking this Sunday, if all goes well, ya all will see a full draw picture... Ole Black Bird is coming down and we are gonna make bows again.

I'm ready for round two and watch her unfold..oughta be fun

Roy
Not wanting to highjack your post but I am about to start like project and have a couple of questions seems it would be easier to use your post than start my own.

I picked up some nice yew billets and like the horn inlays for the tips idea. Can you or someone else following this give a little more on how you did your horn nocks. I like this post it was just in time. I have a yew bow that I made and didnt reinforce the nocks and one has spit, I was able to fix with glue but would like to forgo that with the billets I have. Also anyone have suggestions on glue for handle I have used urac 185 in past but anything else work?

Not a problem, Jack. Feel free to jump right in.  All I ever use for handles is URAC, for horn tips I use smooth on. Lot's of guys use super glue for horn tips but I don't like that idea, just me though:)

I make my tip over lays 2.5 inches long by 5/8th wide. I taper the thin edge to a knife edge.

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Then I lay the over lay on the side of the bow tip, leaving about 1/8th of wood stick out below the very end of the over lay on the belly side. Then I trace a line along it. When I cut the wood off, or grind it off, I stay just a hair off the line. Then I get it too the line with a rasp or sanding block while laying the over lay on it now and then to check for any gaps. I keep the end of the over lay flush with the end of the limb tip.

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I run a toothing plane on the bow wood and horn over lay before glue up, but I stay about 1/4 inch away on the thin end with the plane.
Then use smooth on, wrap it with plastic wrap and wrap it very tight with many rubber bands and let her dry 24 hours at 70 degrees.

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Here is one rough sanded out.
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Perfect that is what I was looking for Roy. Where are you getting your Urac185? I was looking at 3R and they have a two part epoxy (smooth on is that what you are using for overlays?) that says in their cat it works with fiberglass but also wood to wood bonds as well. Wonder is it would work for splicing handles?

And Thanks for letting me join in, I like the way your bow is looking.

Yes (smooth on) from three rivers will glue anything you want to. I get my urac from a local friend of mine, but I believe urac is still available out there on the net. Resorcinol is another good wood to wood glue.

Looking good Roy.  :coffee:

Very nice demo on the tips Roy

Ok mister Roy, it's saterday morning at 6:00 Am and I'm waiting to see some progress,,,,,,,,,,,,get with it already. what are you doing ? sleeping in again?  :coffee:

Tomorrow ole boy, tomorrow:) Honey Do List Saturday here:)

Looking real good Roy, nice product placement on the coors light, but don't expect any of that watery beer when you come up my way to do your "thumpin".
My wife has me rearranging out daughters bedroom this morning.

You mean to tell me that I'm off a day again? Man this getting old stuff is hard to get used to  :readit:    :banghead:

We have logs on our inside walls, company coming this week for 4 days to hunt, so ya know how women are, we gotta wash the entire house walls.

You'll be ok, Keenan:)

Had to stop by and follow this. I have a yew stave in "the works". Just hard finding time to work on it. I appreciate you putting up the pics on reflexing the limbs. Looking goooood!

Does washing the entire house walls have something to do with the effects of the sausages????

Snag wood is porous    :dunno:

:laughing:    :laughing:    :laughing:    :deadhorse:    :deadhorse:

Well, I just added the last three smart arses to the gonna get ah thumpen list:) LOL

I tired, been washen walls and the cedar ceiling all day. But I piled up the Brownie Points with Momma:) Can't wait to hit the bow shop in the morning for some R & R....

I've gotta side with Roy on the fumatious  delicacies of all you pansies!
My wife gripes about the smells in my vehicle, around my chair, in my camp shack, on my pillows, hell, everywhere I spend ANY amount of time...
Rolling down windows don't help!  

"But I piled up the Brownie Points with Momma:)"


Those didn't come off the walls did they?

Careful where you pile em if so!!  :biglaugh:

Dear Kenny;
  I never did like you and now you are number ONE at the top OF the thumpen list:) LOL ya mart arse:) Bet DVS is relieved...

So tomorrow morning it all begins, the tillering of a Yew Stave in the ole boys bow shop. Can't wait.... Ya got that Keenan ole boy, it's tomorrow son... Tomorrow Keenan, Sunday October 21st, 2012.   :laughing:

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"But I piled up the Brownie Points with Momma:)"


Those didn't come off the walls did they?

Careful where you pile em if so!!   :readit:   The list of people that have got Ol Roy pegged!  :laughing:  
What this about tommarrow? I will be helping a friend finish his bow and putting on a beaver tail wrap. But I'll be checkin in on you two.