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Title: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 16, 2012, 12:51:00 PM
Is there a rule of thumb relating the glass thickness to core thickness (ratio) for good performance? I know there are tons of variables, but choosing between the available thicknesses of glass to get to your target stack is not clear to me yet...

I am guessing that thinner is better because the glass is heavier than most core woods. I would probably step up to thicker glass if I had a higher target weight and wanted a "sturdier" limb. Off base?
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: Glunt on August 16, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
I use .040 for everything, It keeps things simple and has worked great on 40# - 60# bows.  Its thick enough so that I can remove a bit if needed to hit weight, and I haven't seen a good case for thicker glass.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 16, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Ok, now you're using logic on me.  :D  That sounds like a pretty reasonable approach.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: bigbob2 on August 16, 2012, 06:30:00 PM
Have seen where glass is between 1/4 and 1/5 of total stack.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: kennym on August 16, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
I agree with Don and Bob. 20 to 25% is the norm for longbow, maybe thicker on curves.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: jsweka on August 16, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
What effects are there if you are below 20%?

I ask because I have a bunch of 0.040 glass that I bought from a fellow Trad Ganger last year and was thinking for my next Hill style longbow, I'd need 0.45 total stack.  That puts me at 17.8% with 0.040 glass on both sides.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: kennym on August 16, 2012, 08:08:00 PM
If you get too thin, and I'm not sure where that starts, you can get some set even in a glass bow.

I did a survey a few years back and most agreed on the 20-25.

I've had one bow take more set,  when I used .002 taper in the limb instead of.003, and maybe the riser wasn't faded out enough.

Only on the bottom limb too, man did that make me shoot high til I did some checkin!
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: rmorris on August 16, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
I started out with .050 glass and that is all I use now because I can hit weight with it. I also only do  longbows so I know nothing about curves.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: jsweka on August 16, 2012, 09:46:00 PM
Hmmmm....Never gave set a thought.  I guess I could end up with one of those string follow bows some of the Hill followers rave about.

I still get a little set in the straight limb bows I've made even with 0.050 glass (23% of stack thickness).
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: kennym on August 16, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Yeah, I get a little set on each bow too, if you lay a bow back on the form after several hundred shots, bet every bow has some..  :saywhat:
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: Stagmitis on August 16, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
On my deep core Hill bows I have noticed the following. The back glass is responsible for keeping backset while the compressive nature of the belly glass aids in speed and stability. Since I trap all my bows this alters an even ratio so I always use a thicker belly glass relative to the back.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: jess stuart on August 16, 2012, 10:29:00 PM
I also use .040 for the weight ranges I build in.  I have used .030 a few times for bows for kids.
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: Swissbow on August 17, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
20 - 25% for a longbow and up to 35% for a recurve.

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Andy
Title: Re: How do you choose your glass thickness?
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 17, 2012, 03:25:00 PM
I think my first set of limbs (TD LB) is right around 25 - 26 % using 0.040 (measured actually 0.038). My target weight is 50 @28. I have to recheck the actual, but I was going for a total stack of 0.300 based on the Binghams chart.

These are terrific "rules of thumb". Thanks guys!