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Title: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 29, 2012, 09:29:00 PM
Still a work in process, but thought I would show progress to date.  

Here is the form

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0428.jpg)

And a lam stack prior to glue up.  I used solid black fiberglass wedges which worked very well.  The fiberlass allows a very fine fade. Also, notice the length of that stack...under 24"

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0427.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0430.jpg)

Solid phenolic riser, and a couple pine templates

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0431.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: sticshooter on July 29, 2012, 09:31:00 PM
very cool I'll be watching this.<><
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 29, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Adding some clear glass and white phenolic on the belly side of the limbs.  

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0436.jpg)

I am tring a curved limb pocket similar to a cascade bow and as such I made a jig to grind them on the pattern sander

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0437.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0432.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0438.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/100_0439.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 29, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
I have the limbs drilled/tapped and fitted to the riser and all overlays on.  Now just a matter of finishing...hopefully I will get some progress this week.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Trux Turning on July 29, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
Brad
That is bad a$$!!! I'll stay tuned for this one...    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: jess stuart on July 29, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Too cool, been waiting for this one for awhile.  Brad had mentioned he was going to do one of these several months ago.  Really going to be great looking little bow.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 29, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
This is gonna be so cool:)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Hermann From Bavaria on July 30, 2012, 02:00:00 AM
Oh my god!
Go for it Brad!
Get her finished!

Lookin forward to see her in fulldraw!

Greets
Herm
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Diamondback59 on July 30, 2012, 08:36:00 AM
lookin good brad  what happend to ya at mojam we missd ya  brock
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 30, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
Yeah, sorry about that...I was unable to go again this year.  I heard it was a good time for all you guys.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: coaster500 on July 30, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
:bigsmyl:
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: scottm on July 30, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Very Cool Brad!Cant wait to see her finished!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: kennym on July 30, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
Not a shortbow guy, but that thing looks like pure fun!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Hermann From Bavaria on August 05, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Come on brad, stop tortureing me!
Gimme some update...  ;)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Millhimes on August 05, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
That thing is cool but how the h@$$ do u get the string on?
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 05, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
I have the limbs mounted, riser rough shaped with arrow shelf and side scalloping completed. All overlays are on and transitioned.  I think it will be about 55# @ 28" although I have not got it all the way back yet.  

Some pics will come this week.  

String goes on with the use of a stringer, just like anything else.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 07, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
So cool!  I would love to see more on how you do the pattern sanding...
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 07, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
Beach, I will take some pics of my set up and post that sometime...these pattern sanders are great for making bows but you basically have to make them yourself.  


Here are some pics of where I am at now.  String is on, limbs are fairly straight.  I did shoot a couple arrows tonight at 3/4 draw...a bit loud at the moment but dead in the hand.

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/DSC02677.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/DSC02676.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 07, 2012, 08:27:00 PM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/DSC02674.jpg)

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/DSC02673.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 07, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr287/bjjanse/DSC02672.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Trux Turning on August 07, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Wow Brad!!! That's looking good.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Hermann From Bavaria on August 08, 2012, 01:41:00 AM
I love it!
Great!

Greets
Herm
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 08, 2012, 02:20:00 AM
Insanely cool!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: quail on August 09, 2012, 07:22:00 AM
Cool bow! Reminds me of my Cascade, my first recurve after I rediscovered them!  Could you post a pic or two and some info on your pattern sander? Always looking for ideas to up my game.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: joekeith on August 09, 2012, 01:22:00 PM
Wow.......another amazing bow from the Brad.    :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Blaino on August 10, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
I'm ready to see the finished bow.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Millhimes on August 11, 2012, 04:48:00 PM
Man That is increadible.Your skills are truly awsome.Thanks for taking the time to show us rookies like me what is possable.much appreaciated
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 11, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
Thanks.  Sit tight Blaino...I am a slow poke now days.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Swissbow on August 13, 2012, 01:05:00 PM
Brad that baby is insane. Great job.

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Andy
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: jess stuart on August 13, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
Brad is the man when it come to shorties.  That is just about the coolest bow yet.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Blaino on August 20, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
I've been checking on this bow everyday for 10 days! You would think it was going to be mine.....
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Werewolf on August 26, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
WOW!that is soo friggin cool.where do you get solid phenolic for the riser.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 27, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
I got the riser chunk from Plastics International.  Going to sand the riser this weekend...that is a messy task.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: meggarch on August 27, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
When Kiko Tovar was still with us and building the KT44 he had special short bow stringers made that went any of his bows. I have a beautiful OD green phenolic handle KT44 which Kiko gave to me the year before he passed away. Kiko was a great man with time for anyone and always willing to help. He was an original short bow guy and could really shoot them.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: sticshooter on September 09, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
awesome is it done yet?LOL<><
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Robertfishes on September 09, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
Here's a pic of a JT44 that I had about 4 years ago..can't wait to see Brads bow.    (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/JT444.jpg)  (http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/tt46/Robertfishes/JT442.jpg)
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on September 09, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
Nice one Robert... Do you know if the JT is for shorter or longer draws as compared to the KT?


In the process of moving to a new location, thus all bow building is on hold for a littl while.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Robertfishes on September 09, 2012, 09:21:00 PM
I don't know for sure..I think there was a maximum draw weight difference in the two models, one could not be built over 50#'s due to riser design?? or something like that. I was buying and selling a few bows 4 years ago and this one was one I didn't have long. maybe Meggarch can answer a few questions? I think the Kiko Tovar bows are really cool.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: flcrkr on September 12, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
John Tluszcz(?) was Kiko Tovar's apprentice from what I understand, so when Kiko passed he took over. The KT is for Kiko Tovar and the JT is for John Tluszcz. Belive the the JT's are 45-55# draw and the KT's are 55-65# draw. I've always wanted to shoot one, never have had the chance. Absolutely love short bows, even with a 29" draw. Bjansen, can not wait to see the finished product!!!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Buemaker on September 13, 2012, 09:07:00 AM
Most interesting, waiting for the finished result.The 44" is it measured AMO or how.Bue--.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Soonerlongbow on July 17, 2013, 09:11:00 PM
What ever happened to the finished bow? These things are beautiful!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: chackworth3 on July 17, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
That is an awesome lookin bow!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 23, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
It's still a work in progress.   I simply need to sand sand sand and finish
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: 4 point on July 28, 2013, 01:31:00 AM
My friend has one. Good shooting bows. Grip on the original was a little high for my liking.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: halfseminole on July 28, 2013, 11:38:00 AM
What's the average draw length on these?  I've never seen anything like it.  Makes me want one.
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on July 30, 2013, 07:44:00 AM
The grips are a little high..I tried to lower mine a bit as I built this one.  

I thought I heard the draw was smooth until 29".
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: Soonerlongbow on August 03, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
Those bows are beautiful. I wish more guys would start building like this, out of the box type design. I would certainly buy one!
Title: Re: KT-44 Reproduction
Post by: bjansen on August 04, 2013, 07:36:00 PM
Thanks...there is a gentlemen who still makes the KT-44 and the JT-44, "Little suckling recurves" I do believe.  The JT has rear mounted limbs and the KT front (like the one I built). He has an ad in Trad bowhunter the last I checked.