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Title: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 28, 2012, 07:14:00 PM
Finally got some time to work on a hickory staff I had been drying for my son a bow. Specs on the staff and layout: 60"ttt, 58"ntn, 4" handle, 1.75"fades, Limbs 1.5" to mid-limb then straight taper to .5" tips. Was shooting for 40# @ 26" so the bow would grow with him abit, if I was successful. Took everything really slow. Got the limbs bending on the floor, then heat tempered the belly. Ended up with about 3" of reflex. Pretty much have hit my weight limit 40-42# @ 25",so I guess tillering is about as good as it is going to get on this one. I know I will lose some weight after final sanding and cleanup. Exercised the limbs really good and shot the bow about 25-30 times, so far. Still holding about .5" of reflex. Was considering another heat tempering session to add some more reflex. Tiller ain't great, seems a little stiff in the right fade area to me, but I'm not to dissatisified, as this is my first attempt. Here's a few pics. Tell me what you think.
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Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Jomohr84 on July 28, 2012, 09:38:00 PM
Pretty darn good tiller for first attempt. I think the tiller is a little stiff a few inches out of the fades, but all in all better than my first tiller! Good job!
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 28, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
Thanks, Jonathan. My eye knows that something is too stiff around the fades. I guess I was kind of scared to get too aggresive around the fades thinking I would cause a hinge. Oh well, live and learn. I think my 11 yr old will get some shooting out of it. First time I've used any hand tools in yrs. Very zenlike and relaxing.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: briarjumper12 on July 28, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
Pretty good tiller. I agree that it is a little stiff outta the fades. My first few where stiff outta the fades too. I was afraid to get a hinge in there also.  I know start at the fades and get it bending there first the way I want it. Then move on out. Don't know if that is the proper way to do it but at least it works for me to get the fades moving properly.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 28, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
Thanks, John for the advise. I might work a little more on the fades. Will try to get them working more a little earlier in the process on the next one.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: okie64 on July 29, 2012, 09:10:00 AM
That is a good looking tiller. For a parallel limbed bow like that one the tiller is supposed to be a little stiff outta the fades. If it were a pyramid style bow then yes I would say the fades are too stiff. If you try to get a parallel limbed bow bending too close to the fades it will take a lot more set than normal.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 29, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
Thanks Jamie. I re-tempered the belly last night. I think I will just leave it as is and shoot it in and finish it up. How much sanding can the back take?
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: okie64 on July 29, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
I almost always sand the back with 150 and then 220. Just try not to go through the outer ring but even if you do with hickory it can handle it.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 29, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Cool. Thanks.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: KellyG on July 29, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
Nice looking bow. Get her dressed up.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 29, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
Thanks Kelly. Just finished sanding it 60grit up to 320grit. Burnished the belly. Gonna try to glue up and skiv a small leather arrow rest. Need to play with some stain, too.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: okie64 on July 29, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: menatkin on July 30, 2012, 04:46:00 PM
:clapper:  Very impressive for your first!  Are you sure you haven't been doing this a while?
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on July 31, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
Thanks Michael. I've got a little more finish work to do and I will post some finished pics.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on July 31, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
looking forward to finished pics
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on August 02, 2012, 08:10:00 PM
Well I think I'm finished with this one. 5 coats of tru oil and she is shiny! My kid is having to shoot my carbons till I can figure out what spine it likes for wood. Seems like sacrilage to shoot carbons out of a selfbow! Had a great time on the first one. Learned alot and I'm sure there will be more to come.
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Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: mwosborn on August 02, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
Very cool - Tyler looks like like he is going to enjoy it!
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: burnt on August 03, 2012, 09:15:00 AM
Nice stick. congradulations on your new addiction. I've always enjoyed making boys for my son the most.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: razorback on August 03, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
Very nice looking bow.
I just picked up a real nice Hickory Stave at ETAR and am planning my first Hickory bows. Another thing I learnt there is that spine doesn't matter much for a kids bow. They don't have the weight to compress the arrow to induce paralax so it doesn't matter. Try to work out how far he is pulling it and to what poundage, you can then determine if arrow spine is vital. Just cut down and reuse all those broken woodies you have sitting in the coffee can on your work bench; we all have one of those coffee cans, don't we?    :knothead:
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Fritz on August 03, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
Thanks Tony. I haven't shot woodies in yrs, so I mine are long gone. Gonna order some test shafts, as I'm going to be shooting some woodies in the future, as well.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on August 03, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
Bow came out fantastic!!!  Congrats
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: DVSHUNTER on August 03, 2012, 05:22:00 PM
Nice job. Good looking unstrung profile.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: okie64 on August 03, 2012, 05:39:00 PM
That turned out really nice. Looks like you made your son very happy.
Title: Re: First Hickory Self Bow (Finished pics)
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on August 04, 2012, 03:40:00 AM
That little bow looks great! I agree with DVS great looking unstrung profile. Great looking tiller. Heck great job all the way around.