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Title: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: JackSprat on July 17, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
I found a distinctly orange/yellow log in the wood pile, and I thought it'd look nice as the riser on my first bow (starting soon). I'd like to know for sure what I'm using first, and the pics and descriptions on the web can sometimes be not so helpful. What do you think I have here?

http://imgur.com/a/TcZPZ
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: John Scifres on July 17, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
osage
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: rainman on July 17, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
I agree with John.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Dan Landis on July 17, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
Looks more like mulberry to me.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Colorado Joe on July 17, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
I love going through woodpiles. Since I work at people's houses around here. I have been checking out thier wood piles. I have found some great pieces of burl and figured wood that they would burn otherwise.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on July 18, 2012, 12:52:00 AM
Without hosting it I say out definitely looks like mulberry.outrage rarely has rings like that and hardly ever shrinks like that when dry.plus it looks like the very early stages of decay witch points to mulberry not Osage
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Osagetree on July 18, 2012, 04:33:00 AM
Slice into the belly of that stave and if it is an electric yellow underneath then it is osage or as DVS calls it "Outrage". LOL!!!
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: J.F. Miller on July 18, 2012, 05:46:00 AM
looks like mulberry to me.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Dean Marlow on July 18, 2012, 06:08:00 AM
I would guess Mulberry looking at the bark. Really good bow wood. Dean
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: DVSHUNTER on July 18, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Osagetree:
Slice into the belly of that stave and if it is an electric yellow underneath then it is osage or as DVS calls it "Outrage". LOL!!!
Outrage...the VERY best bow wood. Seldom found and always searched for.  haha
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Eric Krewson on July 18, 2012, 08:24:00 AM
Mulberry
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: JackSprat on July 18, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
So, 2 for osage, 4 for mulberry. Is there a defining difference between the two? I guess it doesn't matter much for this log, since I can use it for the riser regardless, but it would be useful to be able to distinguish the two in case I ever run across limbs or boards that are bow-length.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: ericmerg on July 18, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
the bark looks like mulberry but we dont have osage up here
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: mwirwicki on July 18, 2012, 02:20:00 PM
I'm in for mulberry.  The bark looks more like MB than Osage, to me.  Both woods would have that inside color with age and exposure to the elements.  When you cut into it, the "fresh" wood will be a paler yellow than that of the brighter orange/yellow osage.  My humble opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: 2treks on July 18, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
Mullberry for me as well.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Paul/KS on July 18, 2012, 04:13:00 PM
I'll vote for mulberry as well. Osage and mulberry are related but not the same...
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: John Scifres on July 19, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
It's osageberrry; otherwise known as mulsage.  

Make your bow 1.5" wide for half the limb and 64" long with a 4" rigid handle and 2" fades for a 28" and 50-60 pounds draw and you will be fine for either.  I've grown increasingly more fond of flat bellies.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Cuban Missile on July 19, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
Yeah I love me some Mulsage!    :D
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 19, 2012, 05:06:00 PM
Looks like Mongolian Tulip to me:)
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Cuban Missile on July 20, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
Leave it to Roy.     :laughing:
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: RAU on July 20, 2012, 12:28:00 PM
the bark sure looks like osage to me.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: ChristopherO on July 20, 2012, 12:49:00 PM
I think it is osage that has been split for a little while.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: JackSprat on July 20, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
Whatever it is, it has been split for quite a while. 9 months in the pile in my garage and who knows how long before that at the tree service place I bought the wood from.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Roy Steele on July 21, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
My votes mallberrie, Osage dos't have that thick of early wood between the rings. Plus those look like perrty wide rings a trate of mallberrie. The barks ruffer the mallberrie and more like osage to different locations ,bark can look different. But those thick early wood rings says mallberrie for sure.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: okie64 on July 21, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Shave a half inch or so off the end and see what color it is. If its yellow- orange its osage, if its brown its mulberry.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: JackSprat on July 21, 2012, 10:27:00 PM
I sliced off the end and it's nice and yellow INSIDE, but outside where it's been exposed to the weather it's brown. Some people describe fresh-cut osage wood as "electric" yellow, but I'd call this a light but prominent yellow, if that makes any sense :-)

I may never know for sure what these logs in my woodpile are, but this thread has been an education. Thanks.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: okie64 on July 22, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
Heres a pic I took a while back that might help you out. Left to right, osage, mulberry , and black locust. The osage is pretty old but I took a fresh slice off the end before I took the pic.

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee503/Jamey_Burkhart/7279dd97.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: tom sawyer on July 23, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
The big growth rings and beeswing figuring in the wood remind me more of mulberry than hedge, at least as far as what I've cut here in MO.  Here mulberry is also quite a bit less dense than hedge.  But its tough to tell for sure, they are related species.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: stumpssticks on July 23, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
i have built seven mulberry bows in the last 20 years and that is a prime example....jeff
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: Axis Thinner on July 25, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
Currently working on my first MB stave, and I think that is what you have. Pretty familiar with Osage, and I just don't think that is it. Bark just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 25, 2012, 10:14:00 AM
Looks like bow wood to me.
Title: Re: Is this log Mulberry, Osage, or something else?
Post by: coaster500 on July 25, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
I'm with Drums...  let's build a bow  :)

I've got the twin in my dry rack....  Mulberry