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Title: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 16, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
This a 60" highly R/D bow I just finished from one of my own forms.  I used 72" osage veneers and full length amber action-boo core.  I also put a strip of core-tuff in the stack, and used a core-tuff powerlam which surrounds the solid black phenolic riser and core-tuff tip wedges extending  1.5" from the string nocks. I did a 10 degree trap on the back of the bow, phenolic and glass tip overlays and osage and glass belly overlays.   It came out 59# @ 28" and shoots good.  

Aside from the belly overlays, which don't look all that fitting for the bow..I am looking for some feedback from you guys on what you would change.  I know when a bowyer sees a bow they think in their head...I would change this or that, or that is too big/small, etc...or there is a better way to do the shelf, etc.   I never really recognize these things until someone points them out and that is the only way to get better.  So let it rip.

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Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 16, 2012, 02:00:00 PM
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Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: SportHunter on June 16, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
To my eye both tips look to be very slightly twisted to the right if you were holding the bow. It very well may be an optical illusion.
The whole bow looks very attractive, a very well executed package.

Nice work bench as well! Did you make it yourself?
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: jess stuart on June 16, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
I like it.  How much forward taper and how is the stability.  Sometimes the highly reflexed ones don't behave to well.  I think the overlays on the belly side of the riser are nice.  Kind of resembles a St Joe River bow.  How is the phenolic to work with?  I have a pretty good sized sheet and haven't decided how to go about using it just yet.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Blkbird on June 16, 2012, 02:56:00 PM
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Igor on June 16, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
I don't see anything about it I don't like!

Very elegant lady you have there!

Nice work thanks for sharing


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Glenn
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: coaster500 on June 16, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
Sweet bow, my favorite style...  looks fast and forgiving to me  :)
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 16, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
Thanks.  The limbs arent as twisty as they look, especially that bottom one...after I took that pic, I had to check it a couple times.  

I did make that bench, I made it all from an old cedar deck that a friend tore down.  I made all kinds of stuff from that old deck...coffee table, stools, benches, countertops...used the last piece last weekend and had a pile of it for years.  YOu can't beat free cedar.  


Jess, the phenolic is terrible to work with.  Hard as a rock, takes 4 times longer to finish sand, dust is extremely fine and terrible...it is not good to make a fade as it becomes brittle when thin, thus I always use a p-lam with it...but when its done, its nice.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 16, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
Jess, I use .003 taper per inch.  This style (to me anyways) tillers fairly easy and is fairly stable once completed...of course a bit harder to get to finished condition.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: kennym on June 16, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
Looks good Brad!!

I wondered about an all phenolic riser! Kinda glad you tried it first!  :D  

Think I'll just use maple and paint it black!!  :laughing:  

I find it easy to twist a limb on a r/d bow with just a camera too.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Glunt on June 17, 2012, 02:21:00 AM
Very nice!   I think it looks great.  The only thing I could think of would be maybe balancing out the belly overlays with some on the top limb belly as well, but I had to purposely look for something to come up with that.  I think its really attractive the way it is.

I really like that style of bow and have drawn out a similar design twice but haven't pulled the trigger on a form yet.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: jsweka on June 17, 2012, 07:22:00 AM
Wow! Design-wise I think the bow looks great and can't think of anything I'd change.

Asthetically, I would prefer wood as opposed to phenolic in the riser.  A cocobolo riser with those osage veneers would be killer, but that's just my personal preference for wood combinations.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: tenbrook on June 17, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
Honestly it's PERFECT IMO!

VERY nice work!!!
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: GREG IN MALAD on June 17, 2012, 11:18:00 AM
Brad,
The only thing I would change would be to cut the shelf on the other side of the bow.  It looks well designed with smooth lines and nice proportions. Your craftsmanship is top notch and rivals that of many full time builders. Out of personal preference I would have dyed ash yellow instead of using osage veneer, I don't care for the way osage darkens.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: BrushWolf on June 17, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
Great looking bow! I'm going to have to try my hand at a longbow sometime.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 17, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
Forgot the full draw one

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Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: kennym on June 17, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
Brad, that is great!! Looks like it could go another 3" before string angle hits square!!
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: SportHunter on June 17, 2012, 01:39:00 PM
nice tiller!
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Tron on June 17, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
That looks really good.  Besides the fact that I just do my tips differently I can't find anything I would change
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: DVSHUNTER on June 17, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Sweet bow as usual brad.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Bjorn on June 17, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
That's a beauty! Only thing I would leave out is the phenolic riser; but that's just me. Love the bow-that outline is gorgeous!
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Big-un08 on June 17, 2012, 07:20:00 PM
Yep that's a looker Brad. The only thing I would change is the address. From yours to mine.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: JJB on June 17, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
It turned out great Brad, I bet it shoots as well as it looks.  
-Jay
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Diamondback59 on June 17, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
looks great bard thaT ONES A LOOKER U PUTER ON THE CRONO YET / ill be lokin for ya at mojam brock
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: VRB on June 19, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Very nice Brad,notice any performance gain with the
tip wedge and power lam?
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: bjansen on June 19, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
I really haven't noticed any.  The first one I made on this form was all osage lams and osage core, no wedges or p-lams and that was he highest performer yet....might have to try that again.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: jered 203 on June 21, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
That bow looks lonely.  You need to send it to me so I can hang it next to that black beauty you made last year.  

Great work, as usual.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: ron w on June 25, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
:thumbsup:  OUTSTANDING.......
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: WestTexan on June 25, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
Sweet looking bow...Looks fast too.
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: Walt Francis on June 26, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
Brad,
As always, aweet looking bow!
Title: Re: 60" Model 1- Osage/phenolic
Post by: DEATHMASTER on June 26, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
Very nice looking.
The lines are very nice.