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Title: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: SLIMBOB on May 30, 2012, 06:46:00 PM
We brag on our successes, and rightfully so, in what we are able to accomplish as bow makers.  Sometimes, it doesn't go quite the way we figured...64" kiln dried black cherry, backed with a hickory slat.  Pulled into 2" of Perry Reflex for glue up.  Belly tillered well before glue up, about 20# at full draw.  Add 10# for backing and 20# for "Perry"= 50# when finished, in theory.  Nearing completion, even tiller on the tillering board with a long string.  Sweet lookin'.  and then BLAMM.  Violent failure at around 24" draw length.  Can't really tell from the break if it was the back or belly failing first.  The glue joint showed no signs separating. The hickory slat ring orientation was a mess and I new this going in, but the break doesn't appear to be related from what I can see. Lots of swearing, then a good belly laugh.
 
  Next!
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Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: jsweka on May 30, 2012, 06:52:00 PM
You're right - that didn't work.

Sorry for your break, but better on the tiller board than in your hand when shooting.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: SLIMBOB on May 30, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Was not on the board when it broke.  I was drawing it.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: PV on May 30, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Bummer ! I do understand how you feel though...

Shooting this trilam in the other day......
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Shortbldtr/bowblowup007.jpg)
about 70# at 28"
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v488/Shortbldtr/bowblowup004.jpg)

Been a while since I lost one.. Sometimes they just don't make it for no apparent reason that I can figure


As you said   Next......
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 03, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
Hard to fell from the pics but it looka like some pretty bad run off on the backing strip
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: Glunt on June 03, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
Whoops!  I had  the riser accent in a one piece glass bow I built fail this week.  Chechen to glass glue joint didn't take. Luckily I caught it before it blew. The other side of the accent is normal and the wood or glass fails before the glue joint.  Same batch of glue, same glass, same wood.  Musta missed prepping a surface or something.  It shot great and was #1 in line for elk this year.  Back to the shop!
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: monterey on June 03, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
It looks like your riser was still in a block form when it went.  Also looks like it went right at the point where the fade would have ended if it were faded in.  Maybe some stress at that point.  

Not sure, just looks that way.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: Cuban Missile on June 04, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
I see what your saying Monterey but,  it looks like the grain on the backing was the culprit.  It looks pooled and full of runoffs.  I think it would have survived if the backing's grain was strait.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: monterey on June 05, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
Cuban, I see what you mean.  Maybe a case of the backing needing a backing?  :eek:
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: SLIMBOB on June 06, 2012, 06:04:00 PM
Yeah.  I knew the backing wasn't ideal, and that is an understatement.  I did think I could get a bow backing out of it though.  When it broke, I said to myself, I shouldn't have used it, along with a few other choice words and phrases.  Oddly it doesn't appear to have broken as a result of the grain running off.  But, lesson learned.
Title: Re: Well, that didn't work!
Post by: LittleBen on June 07, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
If we didn't make mistakes once in a while we'd all be perfect. Happen to everyone .... Or at least that's what I tell myself when I blow one up.