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Title: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Blackie76 on February 02, 2012, 09:25:00 AM
My neighbor had some Ipe leftovers from a decking job and gave me some good pieces.  The grain is good-not-great.  I'd like to back it with another type of wood.  Any suggestions on what kind would work best/look nice?
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: tenbrook on February 02, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
Bamboo would be my first choice!

I have a bunch of Bamboo and Ipe I'm trying to trade over in the classified section.

VERY high quality stuff.  If you want a few pieces of the Boo hit me up with a trade offer.

thanks

tenbrook

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Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 02, 2012, 09:48:00 AM
Hickory, hickory, hickory. Dont worry about your Ipe grain too much.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: soopernate on February 02, 2012, 11:48:00 AM
I also prefer bamboo..in fact that is what I am building.  If you are sold on wood for a backing then yes use HICKORY!!!
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Steve B. on February 02, 2012, 11:58:00 AM
Pearl, would you worry about the grain even if not backed?
Don't let me hijack but I'm picking up some IPE today and want to know about backing, or not.  I'm thinking sinew, if necessary, because I have some.  The bow will be a D shape, handle-working, but I'd like to not back it if possible.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 02, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
I wouldnt mess with Ipe unbacked, thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: soopernate on February 02, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
I have only heard of a couple unbacked ipe successes.  Rich Saffold I think built one a while back that was featured in a primitive magazine.  My daughter has one that she has been shooting that is backed by black denim.  HOWEVER, I have heard of more failures than successes with unbacked ipe...and most of them were pretty large explosions that were pretty sudden in nature.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on February 02, 2012, 01:17:00 PM
I wouldn't build an ipe board bow unless I backed it. I wouldn't wast good sinew on it either.

Needs backed with boo or hickory.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Steve B. on February 02, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
That's the feedback I needed....thanks alot.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Blackie76 on February 02, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
I have access to so hickory, so I think I'll go with that.  Thanks all!
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Traxx on February 02, 2012, 08:09:00 PM
That unbacked Ipe bow,in Rich Saffolds article,was built by Bob Osceola.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: soopernate on February 02, 2012, 11:24:00 PM
I bet those native peoples that use it for bows down in south america do not back it.....but they are much better bowyers than I am too.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Pat B on February 02, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Those South American Natives don't build their bow with boards. Big difference.
 I would use hickory over boo. IMO it is more durable and less feniky...plus a lot easier to build.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: Cuban Missile on February 03, 2012, 01:53:00 PM
True that.  Much easier than boo.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: soopernate on February 03, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
Truth Pat...of course they don't use boards.  I would someday like to see them building with that hard wood before it all disappears though.  Would be interesting to see how they split...shape...and tiller it.  Probably something to learn there ya know.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: nlester on February 03, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
Does hickory backing need to be straight grained?
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: fujimo on February 03, 2012, 11:57:00 PM
i spoke to a guy from brazil- he said it is a large tree, with beautiful yellow flowers with a strong scent, and they are often left standing in the fields as shade trees.
that gives us some hope i geuss.
Title: Re: Backing an Ipe Board Bow
Post by: SEMO_HUNTER on February 05, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
Just my own personal experience is much the same as everyone has already stated, but I've wasted a couple of boo backings due to the strength of Ipe. If I had it to do over again I would have used hickory as a backing because of the strength it would add versus bamboo. If it's not perfectly tillered the Ipe will over power the boo backing and make some quick splinters out of it. Also I would never use Ipe without a backing of some sort.