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Title: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 20, 2012, 01:51:00 PM
I need a stack recipe for a 66" slight string follow hill bow 55# @28

Need all dimensions as well. Riser length fade width and tip width.

This will be my first and probably only glass bow I build so I want to hit right the first time.

Posted this in the Pow Wow this morning like a dummy I geuss.
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: rmorris on January 20, 2012, 02:49:00 PM
Hahaha   :biglaugh:
I am sure someone on here will be able to help you with the deminsions, but I think you are going to need some professional help with your denial if you think this will be your one and only glass bow.... One more quick question, have you built a new style of bow yet and said " Well that was fun but I will not do it again."?  

All joking aside I wish you the best of luck and when I was looking into a HH bow member " tradlongbow  " was a huge help and gave me more information than I had time to read.
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 20, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
I do build alot of different styles of bows. I won't ever quit making self bows but you may very well be right. I may be building self bows, lam wood bows, and glass bows    :D

Guess I better look into opening a bow shop LOL
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: steadman on January 20, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
Kris, let me look through my notes
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: jsweka on January 20, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
Kris - Here's the link to a Hill build I did last year.  The stack is listed on the first page.  Limb width at the fades was 1.25" and 0.5" at the tips.  This bow was 68" long and ended up 63# @ 28".

Hope this helps and good luck.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=004759;p=1
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 20, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
Thanks for all the info guys.

I got a few self bows I'm working on now so it will be a bit before I tackle this.  also got a recipe from Brad Jansen.

Looks like all I need now is to gather the material and go for it after I finish a few self bows.
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: Traxx on January 22, 2012, 02:10:00 PM
Sounds like a case for Dick Whightman.
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: monterey on January 22, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
Stiks, this is  theoretical  from a calculator that I use for long bows.  Have used this on three new builds and have hit within two pounds on all of them.  Here's what it spits out:

NTN  66"
Riser length   18"
Limb width  1.5"
string follow .75"
Stack  .404

To go to a 1.25 inch width, increase stack to .429

Limbs with a gradual taper to 3/8" wide tips at the string nocks.

I know that the "gradual taper" kinda leaves you hanging a bit, but all three that I did off the calculator had slightly different profiles without significant impact on weight.

I sure don't guarantee that his formula will get you there exactly, but I'd say that if the NTN length is not absolutely critical, startt with a 69" NTN and go gradually to desired weight.

Would be smart to listen to and consider as many opinions as you can get!!  :)
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: stringstretcher on January 27, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
When you guys talk about the stack thickness, are you including the backing in the thickness?
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on January 27, 2012, 01:16:00 PM
Charles,

Stack thickness is referring to glass bows. I never have built one but I am giving it some serious thought. Have you started on your boo backed bow yet.
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: stringstretcher on January 27, 2012, 04:40:00 PM
No it is still in the thought process   :scared:    :scared:
Title: Re: Need a stack recipe for Hill bow
Post by: monterey on January 28, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Stretcher,

It includes the thickness of the entire stack;  wood and glass lams.  In the case of any of the lams being tapered, it is measured at the butt end of the thickest point in the stack