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Title: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 18, 2012, 06:15:00 PM
I have had times when using smooth on I will get chunks, crystals, etc... hard glass like chips after mixing, but have yet to see it prior to mixing in part a or b separate from other. Is it shelf life or what. I use separate sticks to remove from can so im not mixing them. Anybody? Kenny, as a supplier and bowyer any thoughts, suggestions? thanks
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: JamesV on January 18, 2012, 07:20:00 PM
I had an unopened unit of smooth-on that sit in my unheated shop for 3 years and I used it with no problems. How old is it and how long since it was opened. I have seen really old epoxy harden without being mixed (floorcovering grade)after being opened.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: rmorris on January 18, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Ron, I was having a similar problem with smooth on. I was thinking it was me contaminating part A with part B or the other way around. I now mix it in a clear plastic cup and then use any piece of wood I can chuck in a drill to mix it for a few minutes. I it makes a very uniform yellow milky color and any defect or foreign material stands out like plain as day. Not sure why it happened but that is how I fixed future problems.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
Hi Ron,

Not sure, haven't seen that.

Was the epoxy cold? Thinkin out loud...

I suppose if not sealed up well and old, it might dry the top of the stuff in the can?
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 18, 2012, 08:44:00 PM
the top I tap down tight so it should be sealed and I store in basement consistently around 65 degrees. The batch isnt more than a few months old. No crust on top when opened and no sign of it until mixed and spreading. chunks can be speck size up to over 1/4 inch almost like it kicked off as it is like hard chips.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2012, 09:17:00 PM
Ron , do you know how old it is?
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 18, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
Kenny, I would say I got it sept or oct
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 18, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Kenny, is there a best if used by sort of thing on it do you know?
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: kennym on January 18, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
Not sure Ron, I try to keep my stock about 4 months or less.

I'm writing myself a note to call Smooth-on tomorrow right now.

Be back with ya tomorrow nite.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: StoneAK on January 18, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
I have seen it before as well when I was spreading out the mix on some lams I usually pick it out. I didn't know what it was.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: Glunt on January 19, 2012, 01:26:00 AM
I've seen it twice.  Just figured I contaminated it somehow.  Both times it was on previously opened cans.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: StoneAK on January 19, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Yes the times I saw it was on pre opened cans as well. I kind of figured that I messed it up some how
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Post by: Bradford on January 19, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Me too.. it happens almost everytime.. but like everyone else, I just pick them out and move on.  Never had the smooth on fail because of it.
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Post by: monterey on January 19, 2012, 02:13:00 PM
I have somr that is about six years old.  The white part is all grainy.  Don't plan to use it in a bow, but have done some wood repairs to furniture and it worked just fine.

Sounds like your problem is a bit different though.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: kennym on January 19, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Ron,
All I could get today was a computer  to talk to. Still trying....
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: 7 Lakes on January 21, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
It almost has to be contamination.  It doesn't take but a tiny bit to make a tiny cristal.
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 22, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
I dont think so because I use a brand new craft stick for each part, never mixing the two so it cant be
Title: Re: smooth on?
Post by: flyfish1 on January 22, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
Also that doesnt explain why it is not in either part before mixing. the chunks dont appear until both parts mixed