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Title: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: coaster500 on January 06, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
I don't know that I'll do it but can Spar be applied over tru oil?  ...   Just seems that Tru-Oil in not as strong a finish as far a protection.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: Igor on January 06, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
I've used spar urethane over tru-oil a number of times with good results.


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Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 06, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Tru Oil will let you put almost anything over it. Tru Oil alone is pretty tuff stuff if you put 4-8 coats on. The last few bows I built last month where dipped in a 3" pvc tube full of Helmsman. You want to see a solid, perfect, bullet proof finish? Try that method. A single dip per limb is plenty thick and looks wonderful.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: coaster500 on January 06, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Thanks Igor   :)  

Chris, how do you keep it from running and how do you hang it to dry?
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 06, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
I dip half the bow and hold it over the tube until the dripping slows down. Then I hang it on a clothes line with a spring clamp in my shop to dry for two days. Then flip it over and do the same. No runs, no smears and a super thick, durable finish is the result. I figure about $5.00 a bow if you use good stuff like Zip Gaurd or Helmsman.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: Walt Francis on January 06, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
Chris,
Did you thin the Helmsmen with anything?
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 06, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
Nope. It all runs right off the limb tip Walt. I just break that little bead of dried urethane off the tips. I have found the KEY to dipping bows is pulling the bow back out VERY slowly so the "run's" cant even start. I have a friend who did a little test of dipped urethanes on wood and he says Zip Gaurd is the only finish that survived 7 days under running water in a creek. Helmsman was a very close second and more than usable.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 06, 2012, 03:27:00 PM
I've done the same as Pearl with great results. I have noticed that spar results in a little thinner coat than urethane, for those who may want a thinner finish. The spar dries faster also. I also wet down the floor and use a tack cloth on the bow before dipping.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: Tom Leemans on January 06, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
Hmmmmmm? Better get going on selling those bow dipping tubes then!  ;)
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: BWD on January 06, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
Sure can Kip. I use Tru-oil to fill the pores in the riser. And, on glass bows, I run a coat or two down the limb edges, because it soaks in a bit. I figure that might help keep moisture out if the limb edge gets dinged a bit. A little sanding, after the last coat, and spar goes right over it with no problems. lol
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: maineac on January 17, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Does the thickness of the finish affect limb speed much?  I have to refinish some limbs on a takedown longbow I have and am starting to do some research.
Title: Re: Spar over Tru-Oil
Post by: Glunt on January 17, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
I often do like BWD stated using Tru Oil on exposed wood and then spar.  If you do a couple coats of gloss spar and then switch to satin it gives it a deep but non-shiny look.